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am i the only one who thinks sati's true purpose was to redesign the matrix??
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11-20-2003, 08:27 AM
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I posted this in another thread, but I wanted to give this its own topic:
Am I the only one who believes that sati true purpose is to redesign the matrix like the architech and oracle did. Just hear me out on this one. During reloaded during the architect speech, the architect said that he used the oracle to redesign the matrix because his designs were always met with failure. The oracle was used because she had a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. The problem with the oracles design (as we all know) is that on 99.9% of the people accepted the program. The fact is even though the oracles design of the matrix was more successful than the architects, she too was met by failure (the oracle even makes mention of the failure in reloaded) the oracle made the choice to have sati redesign the matrix. That is why sati was being held by the merilvingian. In the current matrix that she was in, she served no purpose, since she was to be used after the neo carried out the function of the one. Using a child to redesign the matrix is important on many levels. For one since sati’s mind is less bound by perfection than the oracle, she will have a greater chance of success in the matrix. In philosophical terms, thinking with the a childs mind is important, because it allows a person to view the world more inquisitively (“it is the why that’s important”). That’s why sati said she designed the sun for neo…its just that her understanding of the world is less constrained than that of the architect and neo. That’s why she was protected by seraph. This is also why the oracle made the conscious decision to have agent smith assimilate her, she made the choice to have someone redisgn the matrix for
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11-20-2003, 08:40 AM
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Well, I liked where you were going with that thought, but I don't know if the end of it is right. I was under the impression (and I'm open to change...) that Sati's purpose was just to exist as a program without a purpose.
SO your saying that Sati's new purpose is to help the Architect redesign the Matrix to be better, as the Oracle did for him before? Not that she's the new Oracle, but that she's the new Architect's little helper?
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11-20-2003, 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Valasher
Well, I liked where you were going with that thought, but I don't know if the end of it is right. I was under the impression (and I'm open to change...) that Sati's purpose was just to exist as a program without a purpose.
SO your saying that Sati's new purpose is to help the Architect redesign the Matrix to be better, as the Oracle did for him before? Not that she's the new Oracle, but that she's the new Architect's little helper?
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you could say that she's the architects helper...or better yet if the architect is consider the father of the matrix (as he said) and the oracle is the mother of the matrix, sati would be considered the "child" of the matrix. Sati had no purpose in the current matrix (before it was rebooted) because her purpose was to redisgn the matrix. Due to that fact, she would have to be deleted becuase she served no purpose AT THAT TIME. The oracle understood that she was more succesful that the architect in redisgning the matrix becuase her mind was less bound by the parameters of perfection. The oracle also understood that the inquisitive mind of sati would allow for a greater success rate in people accepting the matrix. This is why the oracle teaches sati to bake cookies (the theories behind the cookies are a story in itself)
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11-20-2003, 08:59 AM
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Well, you haven't convinced me, sorry.
I belief that sati is the unique result of two programs. She is the first of many; Programs are starting to become more and more like humans and more and more will come into existence. Maybe we will soon see a baby from persephone and the Merovingian  .
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11-20-2003, 09:00 AM
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Well, it does seem as if the Oracle is teaching her things, when she made the sunrise, that was appearant. But you're right, it's like the Oracle is raising her child. The child of the Matrix. I'm not sure what Sati is supposed to do now... Do you think she redesigned the matrix already, when we see the cat at the end?
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11-20-2003, 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Valasher
Well, it does seem as if the Oracle is teaching her things, when she made the sunrise, that was appearant. But you're right, it's like the Oracle is raising her child. The child of the Matrix. I'm not sure what Sati is supposed to do now... Do you think she redesigned the matrix already, when we see the cat at the end?
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I do believe she redesigned the matrix (when the cat was there). Sati's purpose will be the same as the oracle and the architect...to govern the matrix. I’m not telling anyone to believe this (to each his own HomoUniversalis), but this is what I believe and it made the movie more absolute for me
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11-20-2003, 09:26 AM
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HU, I don't think Persephone is the motherly type, lol. If she were, and you would think she'd eventually figure out that you fall in love with your children, then she would have asked the Merovingian and he would most probably grant her that. If he can save Sati, then why not give Persephone a baby or child or whatever...
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11-20-2003, 10:33 AM
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I do believe she redesigned the matrix (when the cat was there). Sati's purpose will be the same as the oracle and the architect...to govern the matrix. I’m not telling anyone to believe this (to each his own HomoUniversalis), but this is what I believe and it made the movie more absolute for me
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No, you're not the only one. There is more than sufficient evidence that Sati has distinct importance, as mentioned in the other thread. I'm not 100% sure that she actually redesigned the whole Matrix at the end but not because I doubt that's her role -- rather, I don't think we're given quite enough information to confirm the full dynamics of her role.
Regardless, the Matrix was a much, much different looking place at the end. Not only the sunrise, but also the whole aspect of it, the whole feel of it. The brothers were careful to create a specific tone for the Matrix up to this point, and I'm quite sure that this precisely crafted ending that differs so greatly from that former tone is telling us important things about Sati & the future of the Matrix.
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Last edited by Tempest01 : 11-20-2003 at 10:36 AM.
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11-20-2003, 10:59 AM
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Parallax, my only problem with your idea is that I'm not so sure the Merovingian was "holding" Sati. In fact, I thought it was he who granted her the ability to travel through Mobil Ave. with the Trainman after he was compensated. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Mero was never restraining her or her parents against their will.
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11-20-2003, 12:50 PM
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Yes, that's important to clarify Calamari. Cuz she wasn't with the Merovingian at any point, just in limbo, being transported. If the Merovingian had had any clue to Sati's importance I highly doubt he would've let his archnemesis get her hands on the girl. Yet she ends up with the Oracle.
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Last edited by Tempest01 : 11-20-2003 at 01:06 PM.
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platniumg3
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11-20-2003, 01:23 PM
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Sati had no purpose, that was the point. She represented the evolution of the machines. Usually machines created other machines to serve purposes, that is it. Sati was made out of the concepts of love and desire by these two programs, something that has never been done before.
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