i read a book called alien intelligence and it made sense...when we think of AI, we think of a computer that thinks like us...but if computers became self aware, they would not think like us at all...if you think of how a computer can process gygabytes of information in seconds, can solve complex mathematics in seconds, how would that be thinking like us? if computers ever become self aware, they will have an intelligence not known to us...many scientists know this and see this as an opportunity for our minds to evolve by interfacing our minds with computers...this sounds farfetched to me but its the theory...i mean how would we be able to control an intelligence as advanced as the computers?

in the animatrix, the idea that AI robots do mundane chores for us...this is a recycled thought made way back before computers were even invented and writeers and scientists had no idea of how complex computers today would be....us telling a computer to vacuum our living room would be like an ant telling us what to do....for one thing AI wont even speak our language....would an AI that is so infinitely smart, can process, send or whatever information in nano seconds sit down and ask a human, " how are you doing today?" AI would speak in some sort of mathematical language very more advanced then even our undestanding of mathematics....AI would consider a conversation with einstein to be a waste of time...

Well on some part you're right. If AI is developped and enrolled, we have created an intelligence that on long terms will evolve beyond human intellingence.
However, today's computer is made out of human ideas, human ways of thinking. Von Neumann for instance made the whole processing idea. These are human inventions and therefore will never be alien.

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so the inventor of the calculater can find the answer to thousands or i dont know, millions of complex equations in one second?

No, but that's just why he invented the calculator: to defeat his own limitations (speed and accuracy). The same with the computer: it eases our lives. But we still can do all the things computers do (only a bit slower ;)).

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It would be impossible to know how it will think, you could theorise it but you could never truly know


What needs to be said though is the Human brain uses enormous amounts of processes itself, visual, sound, touch, taste etc all these require amazing feats by our brain to work in perfect harmony.


To say it would consider a conversation with Einstein a waste of time I'm inclined to disagree

Sure 1 day they may be capable of evrything we do and more but it will still be based around the thinkings and ideals of a human brain as thats all we can model it on

You could argue then that A.I may create another form of "Conciousness" not a computer but something else, you may ask what else could there be ??

The 1st half of the 20th Century was without computers and any concept of these being free thinkers could never have been imagined truly by any mind I'd imagine. So who knows maybe there could even be something beyond A.I in terms of Computers

Would A.I not be fasicnated by the splendor of the Human mind in it's ability to be imaginative, creative etc

The difference is that we mix our thoughts with emotion something a machine could never do, as it does not feel pain, sorrow, anger, love <--- The definitive human emotion how would A.I ever understand that ?

Computers regardless of they're self-awareness, power etc, are and always still will be governed by rules. For example, there us no true randomness on computers yet. Which is why the lottery is not picked by computers.

interesting points were brought up...emotion, creativity, drive, insight, will to be become better...someone said we can come up with any answer, like a complex equation, but it would take time...a computer can come up with it in one second....would a computer intelligence have emotion, drive? or things of that nature...its impossible to know, like someone else brought up...but isnt it a little egotistical to think AI would think like us? history shows that any set of beings with intelligence that have not seen things as the providing authority does, gets wiped out...whether its because of race or religion....would AI live by our rules? would AI wonder if it is alone in the cosmos? would AI find religion? i guess there is no way of knowing if AI would even have a conscience....someone said they would live by a set of rules set by us...so AI can live and be self aware but it must know from the start that we are in control? since we dont know that AI would have the emotions we brought up, since we do not know it would have a conscience then why would they obey us? because they are programmed too? sorry, robocop is not one of my favorite movies....i hope scientists in the quest for Ai do not think like that because if they do? then i dont know, i think we are on the wrong course...i mean who really is in control here? when our every day to day lives are lived by means of computers?

in the future AI may not happen at all, or it may happen 50 years from now...by then computers will be so advanced and so complex..the original scientists who created them will be dead....people will not care about the little things that make things go boom...i think education is the key....

there is a scientist thats popular for implanting a chip in his arm that communicated with a computer..he is hoping the computer can record his emotions and retransmit them to another person...his theory about computers becoming smarter then us and destroying us is that we merge with computers with our minds...a coexistance if you will...since we cant live our lives like we are use to without computers, he wants to make it the other way around...make ourselves useful enough to computers that they cant live without us....but that is a whole new thread of discussion there....

Our brain is far more powerful than the best computer ever!

Why? 'cause we have to adapt and live in society.

Computers only manage to process a fraction of info of the amount of info that we process every second in our lives.


for every trillion we do they can do only a quarter of million.

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Plus, do not forget the difference in our input, and that of machines. our ears, eyes, taste smell, touch, is something so precise we can't simulate it with a computer. Plus remember that people can count faster than computers!

Don't forget that AI has a purpose in which it acts. And as long as this purpose is defined there is no problem.

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i dont know if these last couple of replies were to suppor the initial theory in the subject line that computer ai will be completely different then ours, but i like what i hear. knowing what AI will do when it happens is like predicting the future itself..its just impossible to predict...japan corperation and the military are in a race for AI, who do yall think will win?

someone said we can count faster then computers...can you expand on that, because i completely disagree...im guessing your meaning the amount of information we can percieve at once through eyesight, hearing, processing and ect...or do you mean, one two three four? if its the latter then you need to explain how that is possible, that we count faster then a computer...

computers if they become self aware will not think like us at all, which some of the replies have supported....i thank everyone for contributing to my thread, whether i agree with you or not, its a lot of fun...

computors well we made them so there not aliens

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