There is no real world, at least Zion is not real. Here is some
evidence to support my theory:

- Something didn't feel right when Neo went back to the
"real" world at the end. He stopped the sentinels with his bare
hands. This is obviously impossible.

- Neo drempt of Trinity's death in the REAL world, meaning
that something was suggesting her death all along. This is
possible in the Matrix, but impossible in the real world.

- The Architect suggested, in a hidden sense, that there
is no escape.

I think that the Architect fears Neo and this is why he lies to
him. Since Neo can control the Matrix to a large degree, he
might eventually learn to travel from one level of the Matrix
to the other.

The Architect gives Neo a choice. Door #1, Save humanity
by letting them destroy Zion and then recreate it. Door #2
Try to prevent the invasion of Zion and eliminate the entire
human civilization by destroying the Matrix.

The Architect knows that if Neo takes option #1, he bit
the bait and he has nothing to worry about because
he's got Neo on a leash. If hNeo goes with Door #2, the
Architect can only hope that Neo doesn't realize that there
is no real world, and he's just moving from one Matrix
to another.

I feel that once Neo realizes that there is no escape, and
that they're all inside a Matrix, which exists within a Matrix
he will be able to control it some how.

What do you think?

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Very feasible. We won't know until Revolutions comes out. Heck, we may not know then.

He didn't stop it with his bare hands, As said after he colapsed:

"When the EMP went off..." "It wasn't an accident."

He just held his hand up because he knew that the EMP was coming.

"I feel it..."

I trust most of us have seen reloaded by now, If not, this won't give anything away.

The whole story contradicts itself.
It's very confusing, But has a nice sex scene.
People look way too deep into the movie.

Oh and about Not seeing somethign before it happens: That's wrong too. Iv'e done it and I'm sure that many, if not all of us have at some point said "This is going to happen" And it does.

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Dam Couldnt you move that to spoilers....

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thats a good thought! Sort of makes the matrix like a super mario brothers game...Beat one level and move to the next and so on. I like that.

Luc-

You and I agree so often, I think maybe we should check to make sure our DNA isn't related or something...

Similar to your point about Zion not being real, I think it may be real, but I am thinking that maybe the door he went through was actually a door into the matrix within a matrix.

Sort of a safety valve / firewall for the system.

That's when his powers in the 'real' world showed themselves. For the past 6 months, he never felt anything on the outside other than the dreams, which I attribute to him being infected with the matrix much like Smith infects programs and connects to them.

The one loophole to this would be if Neo in coma is lying next to infected guy with Smith in him. I don't think Smith would be in the inner matrix if there is one.

Boy, I don't see how they are going to close this one up in 2.5 hours in November. I could see this going on and on, which I am told is untrue.

-WC-

PS: ARCH, you are wrong about the EMP. He felt the Sentinels, not the EMP. The EMP they are talking about was the one that was supposed to come from the ship that was disabled by the guy infected by Smith.

Unless I am wrong, please tell me. ;)

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Very very interesting points WC.

I will still stick with my own theory though, since it makes
more sense to me I guess only time will tell if we came
anywhere close to the plot.

Now, I am going to agree with you on the "Arch" is wrong
claim.

The ship was destroyed, it was not only broken in half but
also burning to a crisp after several explosions. Not a chance
the EMP would have been shot from there.

If you're talking about the other ship, well, maybe but
very unlikely, heres why:

It's important to remember that in the real world we are
simply biological beings. Electromagnetic waves have no
effect on us. Neo's MIND was changing, but not his body,
he didn't become metal all of the sudden and his vains
didn't use 0s and 1s instead of blood. There is nothing you
can tell me that will make me believe that NEO is biologically
turning into a robot and that electromagnetic waves can
screw him up.

I wanted to say something else, but I forgot. :confused:

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Arch's theory was that he felt teh EMP coming, and somehow reflected that EMP/ transmitted that EMP to the sentinels.

I think that he got the same feeling of power that he does inside the matrix and that's why he attacked the Sentinels.

How is your theory different than my theory, Luc? I am trying to find the differences, but my eyes are so tired I am going crosseyed... :eek:

-WC-

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Well, I just think that Zion is not in the real world. It's inside
the Matrix, a Matrix within a Matrix.

The door idea you suggested is starting to sink in and it
makes a lot of sense. The agent Smith thing kinda sets
it back.

There are so many possibilities! Geez

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ooh, you think there is absolutely no Zion. hmm, interesting. I didn't consider that possibility.

Back to the drawing boards.

-WC-

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firstly, i thought reloaded was disappointing. the philosophical underpinning wasn't as strong, and that whole orgy in zion was damn ridiculous. aside from that, my theory is that neo is the matrix. he is the mathematical remainder of whole equation, and it is entirely his 'choice', or understanding of why he made that choice that determines the path of the matrix, zion and trinity.

he is the imperfection of the architects creation, and he is the creation all in one. he had to chose one door, but both doors were of his own making. i reckon that he is the difference between the two matrik's that were created, the failed one and the flawed one. just like what morpheous was saying in the first one, about realising that some of the rules can be bent, and some can be broken. i think neo is all of the rules, and it is he who can either bend or break his own mind.

just my thoughts, probably dont make sense...it is 3am after all