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05-29-2003, 08:20 AM
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because we biologically evolved into what we are today... where as an AI can only change its form if it creates something entirely new...
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05-29-2003, 12:09 PM
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mayb were just created 2 look and act and grow like biological beings....
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mitochondria
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05-29-2003, 06:49 PM
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one of these days, humans can create AIs to a point, like in blade runner, that we can determin the years they "live", then, it is not inconceivable that we can create AIs with bodily functions, like eating, digesting, and ****ting (pardon the language). if that is possible, there would be no limit....
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Agent_smith17
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05-29-2003, 07:20 PM
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AI's were built to help humans out. They are robots and are nothing else. Sure they can think like us and may even have emotions. But Androids are nothing more than machines that look and act like humans. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they overrule us one of these days.
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smithkicksazz
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06-23-2003, 11:09 PM
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the only way humans could be different from AI is that humans are natural, AI is synthetic
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06-24-2003, 02:20 PM
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They don't have a mind (whatever that may be) and have a different perception. Besides, we're capable of love (this argument is getting boring, no?).:rolleyes:
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06-25-2003, 10:41 PM
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in a very real sense, we don not carry out genes around as a way of reproducing ourself, but our genes carry us around as a way of reproducing themselves!!! this possible means, that in fact we are created by/for our genes.. the same way as we create computers/AI/machines.......
through evolution though we got our intelligence, but the evolutions of artificial intelligence goes so much faster that it will pass us by.....
and a machine is the body, AI would be the mind.. And how good is love?? it is just some chemicals in our body... the same chemicals that could be in a computer and make it feel fine.. a computer can also be capable of loving... but it won't have to because it reproduces itself different than we do...
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Xirtameht
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06-25-2003, 10:56 PM
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Humans and AI are/would be both artifcats of evolution. If we are an artifact of evolution (and we are), then everything we create is also an artifact of evolution. The distinction between "natural" and "synthetic" becomes much less clear.
And we could endow AI with the ability to evolve, based either on Mendelian genetics or some other model, such as Lamarckian. If AI has the ability to evolve, and are by definition an artifact of an evolutionary process, then I think you would be hard pressed to label them as synthetic.
The only important distinction (and, I'm not sure if it's all that important), is that our computers run on neurons, chemical reactions, and electrical signals between the neurons; while theirs would run on silicon transistors and electrical signals between them (or, perhaps, silicon carbide, or an optical format, or whatever... that's why I said I'm not sure if the mechanics of our computers vs. their computers really matters that much).
True AI, if ever created, will be a legitimate life form born of the grand evolutionary process.
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06-26-2003, 08:13 PM
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Bravo, Xirtameht.
I once read somewhere that life stands an equal chance of evolving from a silicon base as it does from a carbon base. Think about what kind of organisms those would be! Almost as profound as imagining life in the anti-matter side of the universe...
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Xirtameht
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06-26-2003, 10:37 PM
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lol, I'd like to talk to them, but I don't think I would be shaking any hands. 
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Son of Mixerman
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06-27-2003, 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Xirtameht
And we could endow AI with the ability to evolve, based either on Mendelian genetics or some other model, such as Lamarckian. If AI has the ability to evolve, and are by definition an artifact of an evolutionary process, then I think you would be hard pressed to label them as synthetic.
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Lamarks theory was falsified by Weismann roughly in the late 1880's.(in the classic sense) But Mendelian laws goes against your other AI thread where you questioned the purpose of retaining evolutionary artifacts? Hybridization requires the artifacts...Natural selection requires the artifacts...
Also, hybridization isn't always a good thing. Typically hybrid offsping close the door on evolution by creating a sterile offspring.
Evolution requires chance.... AI requires something better like precision.
Im not exactly sure about life having a silicon base? Im not aware of silicon being available as a free element in nature.
Do have a link where I could read about it?
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