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God and adam the first gay couple?
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God and adam the first gay couple?
I will show that I am the foremost authority on biblical understanding while the church isn't, and the church has us living in fear instead of us being fearless of anything!
two males in the bible produced a child or offspring which was a women- ofcourse this is a type of cloning or genetic engineering or sorts- the two males that produced a child called eve/even is equal to a gay couple with the right technology being able to have children of their own; secondly since the genetic material of adam/odd was all male but was turned into a female through genetic polarization, male material went from male to female- so the material that formed eve was first male and then turned into a women! Its in the bible, lol lol.
Now according to the research of some around the world there are reptiles and fish which start off female and can morph into males; although not all of the group change into males some of them do, this begs the question then with our darwinian base of knowledge that much of animal changes occur through polarizational morphing which means that a few animals morph into other species even though not all in the group do, just as not all in a group in reptiles or morphing fish change into males; thus you can have a manitee morph into a warus and such. This is only one part of the evolutional process equation.
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Moreover, remember that during the evolution process much abilities are lost, since we use to be birds but evolved into a different yet higher model of being we lost our ability to fly as birds do except that we build machines, it is with same sex couples, they have lost their ability to reproduce yet in lower levels a same sex being would reproduce through assexual reproduction, god in the bible to produce eve used assexual reproduction, taking but a piece of adam and turning it into a complete being which is what asssexual reproduction does; we during evolution have lost our assexual expression of reproduction but with the right technology such can be restored, thus gays would regain their ability to have children or to clone themselves, a power lost in us evolving, just as the power of flight was lost in human evolution but technology means that we can fly once more and technology would mean that gays could have children once more, so it is not that gays cannot have children it is that they need the technology or genetic engineering to allow them to gain the power of reproduction, women do not own the process of reproduction- the bible tells us that eve was all male yet was engineered to be female or was morphed into a female expression- we as a species due to evolution have lost our ability to breath under water like fish but our technology gives us these powers back- the act between god and adam of offspringing eve is evquialent to two makes of our species using technology that can allow for two same sex people to have a child- and eve went from being a male into being a female, because all of adams rib materials were male thus when it was morphed it was turned female- this contradicts parts of the bible that speak against gays or same sex beings when god is gay for reproducing with another male? And then god turned a male or male material into female material how gay is that? Turning a man into a woman, its in the bible! lol
now it has been said by others that if adam/odd and eve/even if they had two sons how did cain marry or have children if adam and eve and cain and able were the only humans on earth did cain have sex with eve and married his sister, and they married young in those days they married as soon as a person could reproduce, and younger, its in the bible, who knows the age of cain's wife. But where did she come from. Yet another contradiction in the bible. The part of genesis that speaks let us make man in our likeness seems to be different than the part about the garden; it seems that the earth was populated before the garden was invented and that the garden of eden was a different section of the world that god developed-
Now revelation 13 speaks of me as the african that wears leapard skin like the nubians did yet I live in a country that is cold where bears live, and it says that I am to speak blasphemies against god, if you call speaking against tyranny blasphemy then I am guilty, but why wouldn't a tyrant speak ill of me speaking against its evil?
The true evil ones also have dipicted satan as being humanoid yet looking like a ram or bull which in egypt or kmt many of the black gods are ram or bull-like- in egyptian or kshian symbology the being of evil is dog like and dog spelled backward is god, so this god being which many bow to is actually Set or a dog like being- Khum and other ram or cow symbols which are not evil have been defamed as evil- it is those who are evil that are making that which is good seem as evil-
God rules through fear, yet satan is fearless and teaches all to be fearless- why should humans live in fear? In the bible, its in the bible, god adam and eve or eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and god and the angels feared that if they remained in the garden that they would develop the same powers as god and the angels so god and the angels banished adam and eve lest they become equal with god; the truth is that the reason god didn't want adam and eve to eat from the tree is because they would then see what satan saw and that is that god is a tyrant and is not supreme within the infiinite cosmos; the serpert as it is called is of the same race as god and know the tricks that the race that fashioned man into their likeness are playing on man- Not unlike the 'oreye' and such in the TV series Star gate and such; Even in Zena the warior Eli opposed the tyranny of Olympus freeing man of living in fear of the gods and such, and the fear of the gods was that man would evolve above or equal to them which is the case- Eli who was satan taught man this-
when adam and eve ate they would learn that god is not supreme nor the angels and that they are tyrants; god and the angels rule through fear, who wants to live in constant fear, thus satan in his true nature teaches all to be fearless and to not live in fear- what type of monster continuously says live in fear, fear me! Jesus also came to earth to counter satans message to us to not live under tyranny and to not live in fear of anyone, yet Jesus came to reinforce gods message that humanity should live in fear and remain under god's tyranny, and this is why satan and kings of that day killed Jesus because many kings didn't respect Jesus threating them that if they didn't bow to the tyranny of God, God would destroy them and curse them and such, but many kings said I will make war with this Tyrant how dare it threaten us; free will, what a joke everyone that doesn't bow to god this tyrant seeks to destroy or curse you, free will means that you can truly choose without fear of harm; its gods way or the highway(fearlessness).
God cursed adam and eve and curse the generation, it says that man would sin against each other due to the curses god put on man- man will war with each other by the curse of god or by his causing such, 'man will wound his brother in the head and the brother will wound his heal'' its in the bible. This is one of god's curses. Now if god has cursed us on so many levels especially to be vile toward each other then how can we be accountable to sinning towards each other if god cursed us to do so, and then this cruel god turns around and punishes us further can tells us that we are sinning towards each other yet it cursed us to do so and why, all because our ancestors at some fruit that showed us that god is unfair, cruel and a tyrant? When it comes to evil god has satan beat!
Part of the reason satan came to earth is to help humanity fight against gods tyranny, remember satan is of the same race as god and knows his treachery; part of the reason satan made war with god was due to gods unfair treatment of humanity- the evil ones won the battle in heaven, the tyrants won and the good people were driven out, and they came to earth to warn us that god and its minions desire to enslave us and to force us into submission and to have us living in constant fear and suffering, as their curses on us are generational; who are these evil races that ruin humanity?
Jesus was sent to earth to counter satans message to humanity for us to be fearless and to not live in fear of anything, and jesus's message if fear god bow to god- Satan and many of his angels killed Jesus chasing the influence that says accept tyranny from much of the earth; many kings joined satan in fighting againsts gods commands that kings on earth should bow to god's tyranny and accept being ruled instead of accept being free from evil rule. But as we see this race of beings have technology that can restore or resurrect their evil disciples- even though satan and others killed jesus for promoting tyranny and threats against humanity these monster were tenacious and determined to continue their evil against humanity that they brought that beast jesus back to life to continue to influence others to accept tyranny. God's message is accept tyranny or die? Satan's message is fight against tyrannts at all costs and live free! But lest not forget that satan is of the same race of beings as this thing called god thus satan showed that he and god are of the same genes so satan resurrected someone from the dead in revealations too; what this means is that satan like in the garden of eden is telling us that these evil beings calling themselves gods and such are not above humanity and that humanity can evolve in time to be on their level or even surpass them!!!!!!
Science proves satans teachings, satan like god of which god doesn't want humanity to know this because this god is so desperate and hungry for our worship and such, I will not go into all the details, but these beings are desperate for our worship and to insteal fear into us through curses and such they benefit in many ways from our planet and world due to our blind worship and such it gives them life and energy-science and certain experiements teach us that god did not invent us, even if these beings shaped us into the forms we are in as like clay they did not create the clay;
''matter cannot be created nor destroyed but yet is recycled, matter can be broken down infinitely or built up infinitely; no matter where a being is in the infinite scale there are infinite things above it and below it and no being has access to the greatest height of materials nor the lowest depth of materials , there are materials that are too evolved to unperceivable for any being to be able to use or even destroy to smaller particles and this is infinitly so, thus so being has ever or ever will reach the highest height or lowest low in infinity thus no one can ever create nor destroy matter because it is out of our reach at some point in the scale thus since matter is indestructible and on your evolution level can only be broken down so far and yet recylcles back up to the level you broke it down from ,thus matter has always existed as it is no one has created its nature, and since it is indestructible it has always existed having no beginning and no end. Satan knowing this just as god knows says to god you know that you are not supreme and though you may have shaped man you didn't create man the clay which is man is eternal and has always existed independent of your shaping, and when the form you shape man into falls apart the clay goes back to is original state which you god have no power over, you god have shaped the clay on the potters wheel but you have not made the clay, and you yourself are made of clay, your clay is a finer brand than man but yet is clay that is shaped by a higher being than you; this is the battle of satan and god; satan being of the same race as god condemns god of his cruelty to man and the angels; god is a tyrannt and even turns on its own race/angels/followers.
In the story of exodus I think the jew characters were followers of god before they were gathered up and punished by the king of egypt- in anycase in truth since the followers of god went throughout the earth teaching people to accept tyranny to live in fear and even to accept the curses of god without a fight, the king of egypt gathered these fools up and protected the world from their vile teaching; now god worked to free his minions so that they could spead his message through the ages to accept gods tyranny or die and such, which satan and allot of kings and people of the earth reject; satan's and those angels that followed him to warn humanity of the evil one called god, says don't live in fear, don't accept tyranny from anyone- satan only turned on the disloyal, while god turned on the loyal and disloyal at his whim, it in the bible; satan has attack many humans because they accept tyranny and also because they attack him without understanding him; satan left heaven as it is called because he refused to live under god's tyranny and cruel whims, and because satan watched how cruel god is to humanity satan got sick of god's evil and fought god for all the curses he placed on humanity and on various angels throughout gods reign; many of gods minions have been killed for teaching that humanity should live under the tyranny of god; many of us are not kings or queens being threatened by people like jesus so we don't know the intensity to which gods threats are; but when another king threatens to take over your kingdom or rule and force you into its imperial stock, such a threat is not taken lightly by soverign rulers, so many rulers did kill the socalled saints that propagated that kings had to be under god who called itself the king or kings, is that not a terrible threat to someones soverign freedom, and thus soverign have to take to the dictates of the thing called god, and if they don't they are to be destroyed and such- many kings and satan said I don't care if the tyrannt has the powre to destroy our freedom we will not live in fear as this monsters say to us live in fear, its in the bible the minion's banner is 'Fear God' of all the villiany! So satan and others refuse to live in fear- they rather live on their feet than on their knees like many!
You cannot win with a tyrannt in genesis he shaped us/clay and we acted as evilly as itself , well what did god expect since we are made in his likeness we will be as evil as it is, yet because it is a meat headed beast brain it said that it was a mistake in making us well god why did you not use your all seeing ability your all knowing ability and say since I have foresight I can see that if I shape clay in my races likeness it will be as vile as our race and it will incurr my wrath, but god didn't use foresight and invented us with his all knowingness anyway and then acted surprised when he opted to place a miriad of curses on us! utter villiany- this is why satan fought against god, it is not that satan wanted to be god or top dog this is not in accord with the nature of cosmos, the only true reason this god hated man is because some of us would refuse its tyranny eventually and would evolve to understand this being calling itself a god and such, worst yet a supreme god, what a con game; so satan called the serpent said to adam and eve this god fears that you will figure it out this is why it wishes you to remain ignorant of truth of the cosmos, because it is not what is makes itself out to be, eat of the tree and you will see the beast for what it truely is, you will have the abilty to see evil and what is truely good, the serpent helped humanity, god cursed the serpent and adam and eve because now they could see that god is monstrous, well the bible says that if adam and eve stayed in the garden further they would be able to see god as the evil one just as the serpent saw god- this is why the tree was forbiden- and eating of it didn't mean that you would die as god lied and said to discourge the blindfold being removed from adam and eves thought process; adam and eve didn't know that god is a monster but the tree would have revealed this eventually thus adam and eve were banished and god and the angels said that if adam and eve stayed among the monsters they would soon learn that they were among monsters, the serpent told adam and eve that eating the fruit would give them eternal life and wisdom not that they would die, god lied to them;
In chapter 13 of the bible I am called a blastphemer, well if telling the truth is blastphemy I am guilty- I say to humanity don't live in fear- don't live on your knees get up stand up, live free not as a slave, there are no supremes non is above thee-those that lead into captivity shall become captives; I dare god to cast me into a lake of fire just because I revealed its tyranny, for there are laws in the cosmos, he that lives by the sword shall die by the sword and this means you too god; everthing that is high shall be made low, every supreme being shall be made insupreme, and on and on; I am fearless of thine threats and malice! You have much of humanity living in fear and on their knees yet you are not unopposed and we have killed many of your minions that taught humanity to accept tyranny and evil from you; you have written ill of us in many of your religious books to detract from out true identity as the true forces of good that say fear not while you say fear you! You and jesus go out of your way to force worship on others you vile things; you have many that it is you who heals them when you know they are placebo effects and self-fulfilly prophecies, and auto-sugesstion, as is in the nature of the cosmos- you tell them you are the supreme being when you know that there are no supremes in an infinity!!!!! In mathematics there is no supreme and every atom everything is made of the nature of a numberline; you have hidden this and ward humanity away from this just as you ward them away from the trees in your garden-
In a true heaven no one would have to bow to anyone! No one in a true heaven would be top dog, it would not be a true heaven if everyone is not equal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In a true heaven non would rule above another; your heaven is a true hell. All that lives in god's heaven lives in constant fear of curses and the like and cruelty-
I am not telling you to worship satan the true satan that has helped humanity doesn't want to be above you or to be worshiped the total opposite of god, but I don't trust satan either because he is of the same race as god is and thus has the same flaws of that race which is above our race or species- this species that shaped us in their likeness are like the wind we only see them in their effects but we cannot see them just like we don't see the wind, but like the wind they are all about us- every foul and evil thing humanity has experienced is due to these vile beings, they have cursed us and plagued us for so long, but is is beings like satan which fight them for us and work against their evil and curses; many of the curses places on us satan has taught some how to destroy and lift the curses, mentally and through techonogies- We have champions simular to Zena that have set out to destroy the gods of olympus, but you can destroy olympus by not blindly worshipiing god and by not living in fear of god, get up off your knees like a slave stand up and resist evil, resist tyranny, fear not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
satan has attacked god's idiotic followers for being so blind and stupid to in accepting tyranny and the terrorism of god; you have no free will with god because he threatens you that if you don't accept its tyranny it will curse and hurt you and kill you; satan says resist these threats and don't give in to terror attacks and such! Rebellion or fighting against evil, blasphem of speaking against true evil! Since much of the bible is changed by the minions and angels of god they have spoken illy of satan and of true freedom and right. This is why almost all of the bible speaks of fearing and bowing to god and such- and the proper understanding of satans resistence to tyranny is not well stated in the bible, satan is demonized by gods diablolical writers, when satan because he was an inside man in heaven knows god's malice best, and has opted to warn humanity- we should have expected god to demonize someone helping us to be free, and teaching us not to live our lives in constant fear-
The laws of the cosmos will punish this god character and its minions!
As you see humanity has not until now been reading the bible correctly- what being of goodness tells anyone to have fear? None. Satan says be fearless! We should have expected that those evil ones every thing they defamed satan as being evil is actually true of them and not true of the true satan-
evil the devil spelled backward is live to live to be alive and not dead, god is death and satan is life or living or to live, efil is life which is the same as the word evil or to live- if you are on your knees you are not living or have no true life. satan says get off you knees stand up and be dignified!
religion puts us on our knees and tells us to accept tyranny and fear us, and truth says get off your knees and don't accept tyranny and evil beings and don't live in fear!
There is other knowledge of the bible that I will not go into, I am speaking purely in terms that a religionist should be able to understand, religionists don't understand what they read, just because it sounds good doesn't make it so, who in their right mind thinks being a slave to a tyrannt is good- you are misunderstanding the bible and who the villians are and who the heros are and as I have pointed out satan is a hero of humanity and jesus is a villian telling us to accept tyranny and such and that's why satan and his followers killed jesus and god determined to continue to advertise to humanity to be under his tyranny bought jesus back to life to continue the evil ad campaigne , but satan did a simular miracle in bringing someone back from death to show that he and god are of the same race.
There is more wisdom that I could have shown but this line of speech is just to point out that things are not always as you think they are, what is labeled evil may just be good!
The evil ones saw me coming so they called me the blastphemer of god the one wearing leapord skin and having feet like a bear which means that I am in a cold climate yet I come from a warmer climate or africa as it called, the true evil ones have spoken illy of those that fight against tyranny and evil. I will end here I will not reveal the rest of the meaning of revelations, but I have fulfilled chapter 13 of revealation of which they call me the blasphemer and like I have said if me telling people not to live their lives in fear of anything and also to think of themselves as sinners even when they do wrong because we are cursed by god to do various sins as stated in genesis, especially in our waring with each other as in genesis the curse is that we will strike each other in the head and strike each other in the heal and god is causing this, thus if we kill each other and do all manner of evil to each other we are only following god's curse on us and thus actions from curse is not sinning but following the will of god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thus god cannot punish us for following his will though he does wrongly punish us for his own curses- you just can't win with an evil god- lest we not forget that god gave us commandments not to do such and such yet he lifted not his curses that compel us to break those commandments, and also the very commandments we are to follow god breaks them itself; how also can god say thou shall not kill when we have to kill to eat, quite illogical as you see these beings are quite stupid; I must have eaten from the tree or because adam and eve did eat of the tree some of its effects have passed to me, and thus the worst fear of god and its minions is that humanity or some of us would become as god and see god for the fraud god is; the serpent told us that we would understand better reality by eating of the tree which god didn't want us to eat from because it would spoil gods plan to keep us ignorant and subservient.
God is going against every law of the cosmos and working hard that we don't learn more about the cosmos, the serpent was trying to tell us that god is but a insignificant grain of sand in the cosmic beach and even though he shaped us that his shaping will be destroyed by the cosmos in time, but that we humans are clay no matter shaped or unshaped and clay in indestructible matter, and one day clay shall morph into coal for instance of gold and such i.e. matter evolves- satan's message is that since god itself is clay be it though a greater quality of clay than our evolution but that we don't have to accept god's whimful abuse; the church and other religionists are like a person in an abusive relationship the person can beat on you and you still love them, but satan is the person that was abused and broke free from the abuse and satan as the being is called is trying to teach humanity to break free from the abusive partner, if he abuses you he can't love you right? In the bible there are many that are abused by god yet they still love god, right? That's how abusive relationships work the abused person is so engrossed in accepting abuse that they stay in the relationship when they should leave and get help.
don't mistake self-fulfilling prophesies, placebo-effects and the like for miracles, healings and answered prayers; prayers being answered as you know are like a lottery game or gambling sometimes you win but you loose more often; look how many have been dealt a bad hand of cards in life whether they believe in god or not; more of your prayers go unanswered than are answered so is god causing things to occur for you, odds is god is not doing anything to help humans, most of your success stories are due to placebo effects and self-fulfilling prophecies due to unconscious auto-suggestion based on you forcing prayers to be answered by a good that pick and chooses when it feels like it to answer prayers- it is like waiting for Santa clause to bring you presents, when when you grow up you realize that if you don't go to the store and buy the gifts no gifts will occur on christmas or kwanza and such.
religion tries to give better fortune to the individual or group through prayer which is a a gamble, and are placebo-effects and self-fulfilling prophesies when answered it is the science of auto-suggestion at work on many levels
religion tries to explain tragedy to bring comfort to the inevitable of accidents, deaths, misfortune and the like.
religion was developed by humanity also to give a promise of a better place in the future so that the person could bare a bad hand dealt to them in life yet with the false hope that they will get better when they die which can or will not be the case;
If a person has bad karma don't leave them in it oppose karma fight against bad karma, don't leave someone in the mud of bad karma elevate them to a king or equal and such; one of goodness would never leave another at the mercilessness of karmic forces, what difference will it make if you go against karma that is horrid we live in eternity it won't matter what we do so you might as well do good; Indians in India may leave people to suffer in what they call bad karma but not a good person, no one of true wisdom and good would leave anyone in a bad situation whether caused by karma or by and evil society, good people would life others up and make them equals without cost or conditions and such, education discrimination and other evils would not stop the elavation of the person into having a great life- and if the person needs to be taught how to appreciate living nice just as in that movie where the guy turned the lady that sold flowers on the street how to speak and act like a civilized person so can this be done for others. Don't leave anyones life to chance or to karmic misfortunes, you be the force even if it is against karma or even against your trip into nirvana and such and you bring that person up.
religion where it was missed in life promises the best life; religion leaves no room to evolution or morphism which is a reality, if some scientist had not seen it for themselves that fish and some reptiles can change their sex, many would assume that male and females just automatically appear that way in nature right from the ground and such- but morphism shows that not only can a sex of a animal be only one which then morphs through mental polariztion into the opposite polarity inventing a new sex if necessary, depending on the species because some animals have both sexes already or can produce assexually, but in this case one thus can see that the gaps and missing links are now more so understood due to morphism, where a completly opposite species a few can morph into a species that doesn't seem to have a connetion to the original species.
Religion leaves no room to evolution or morphism which goes beyond human matters so a blanked belief that the stage of humanity is the fixation for eternal life with god negates the force that things evolve; thus if one goes to heaven as a human one will be human forever, this is in opposition to reality that one evolves to higher forms eventually of which a human heaven would be a hell and being trapped as a human for all eternity instead of having an opportunity to be higher than a human is like telling a butterfly or another animal that they will spend eternity as a butterfly and never evolve higher to be human, the cosmos doesn't work that way-the cosmos works in change just as the seasons etc.. For the church to say nothing evolves means that it is saying nothing changes that seasons don't happen and such, when they do; let the earth stop spinning stop that change and see what happens- one of the constants is change, ecolutionary processes included.
If one has good fortune in business, career, in life and such some attribute this to god blessing them, there are many so rich and with great fortune on many levels that don't belived in god, yet they are socalled blessed.
Religion tries to set rules to live by and determine norms and viloations, but so do secular cultures.
religion provides a place where people can feel important even if they are not, feel worthy in their acceptance of tyrannts, but they know not.
religion steals money from people and such.
science sees that prayer is a gambling probability where the odds of being dealt a good hand of cards in life is just as horrid as winning the lotto, you loose more than you win; and don't forget the crooks in the game that have the deck marked, the cheats in the game that have cards under their hats and such; and many try to stay away from the game. the prayer game is allot of smoke and mirrors and you will ultimately loose more than you win.
science see in certain experiements the soul and the probablity of death and the recycling of the flesh dust and souls.
science sees infinity and no supremes.
enough.
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Uh, I might be wrong, but wasn't the story of Adam and Eve a parable?
And secondly, how can Adam and God be a gay couple, when they did not have sex to create Eve? Eve mas made out of one of Adams rib bones, not through sexual intercourse. Therefore, your point is null and void.
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I will show that I am the foremost authority on biblical understanding while the church isn't, and the church has us living in fear instead of us being fearless of anything!
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You do know that blasphemy is a sin, right?
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04-10-2007, 03:00 PM
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If you believe there is a God that has created Adam, why do you try to explain how Eve was created by genetics, bound by physical limitations. Obviously God is outside of what we believe to be possible if you believe in creation.
And God does not use fear to 'rule', the only time fear of God is mentioned in the Bible, it says that we should fear God because of what He has done, He has not put a fear into us. And I think you misunderstand the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Sin did not exist before Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate the fruit. Since humanity sinned, we all have inherited this original sin. The 'curses' God gave us are justified because of this sin once we decided to destroy God's perfect world and introduce sin.
If you believe religion was developed by humanity, then why are you arguing about God and Adam?
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splinter reproduction between two males did occur right, assexual reproduction at that; by the activities of two males did offspring come forth; the action in nature animals many of them don't have sex like we do they simply deposit sperm or the sperm drifts to mix with eggs no sex like humans occur as in penis and virgina, yet offspring is produced- thus the reproduction that god and adam did is a type of sex not unlike the reproduction of various coral or fish that lay eggs and the male simply fertilzes them and the eggs are simply attacked to rocks and such- so reproduction by two males took place- and since eve or the rib materials was handled by the hands of god that is equivalent to intercourse because with his hands he handled the reproductive materials. Two males forming another being is gay reproduction; a form of assexual reproduction; to top it all off, when you think about it since adam provided the reproductive materials to bring eve into existence and god merely shaped it and breathe electricity into it, adam is the femine and god is the masculine or vice versa; either way you cut the cake two males bringing forth offsping is gay reproduction.
It is not a sin in truth to blaspheme or speak against evil where it is from god or anyone, anyone telling you different is a liar, god lied to adam and eve and told them that to eat of the tree of knowledge would cause them to die and that was a lie, god did this to scare them from going near the tree, but the serpent showed adam and eve that they are living in a place where they were being deceived and kept from evolving while among the being called god.
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Furthermore, genesis says that adam became as god and the angels in eating of the tree of knowledge, and god and its minions feared that if adam/odd and eve/even ate of the tree of life they would live forever; now if humanity had the ability to be as gods or god, why was god and the angels so jealous and why did they hinder us from progress?
God is malicious, incompetent, unprofessional, and malpractice is its 'halmark'.
Now keep in mind that the bible is not giving the complete story of cosmos, it is just like the fact that the bible doesn't tell us what happens after we die and the church doesn't have the scientific facts either; with the right equipment and/or psychic we find out that ghosts are not going to heaven when they die many of them roam the earth and await reincarnation, evolution and such.
Now for man to have the ability to become as god and his angels this means that man evolves, its implied in the bible! But god and the angels impede humanities' evolution to become equals or as them, but why? Probably because power corrupts absolutely and god and the angels are having so much fun being surrounded by cowards that bow to them that they don't want to share power and resources with humanity, they feel that this cosmos isn't big enough for humanity to share in power with god and the angels since god and the angels jump started humanity into being beings of the cosmos- god and the angels did not create humanity they shaped clay into humanity, they didn't invent the clay, this is why the clay is hated because it can equal or surpass god and the angels in the evolutionary process.
the bible is only a type of text explaining alittle about cosmos, but their are greater text than the bible that speak greater and more clearly about the state of things. In some books as is within the true nature of things heaven and hell are not eternal conditions experienced by souls, one can spend time in hell and one can spend time in heaven, and often higher souls descend into hells to help others rise out of hells, hells are not permanent abodes as the bible says they are; much of the bible is implication and symbollgy and lies put into the bible by beast hands.
If an evil being casts a good being into hell this doesn't punish the good being nor does the good being fear hell nor evil attacks from evil things; and as said many good beings descend by choice into hells to explore them and to asend others to fearlessness.
But let us take the stance against the bible's threats with don't instill one iota of fear into satan nor his followers, fear no evil, fear nothing! Humanity has been attacked generationally by god and the angels continuously we have been curese plagued etc., being cast into hell is just one more vicious evil attack from god because many of us refuse to live in fear and on our knees! We who have some of the effects of eating from the tree of knowledge see that god is impeding our progress which is the pattern of evil beings to impede the progress of those who are good.
I will speak biblically:
Behold ye who live in fear if I or any be cast into the lake of fire we shall not die, yet we are still alive and more alive than those that bow and live in fear in heaven; we live on our feet and not on our knees if we who are good be cast down by evil we are cast and delight that we oppose evil at any cost; to encurr evils wrath in our opposition then we have defeated evil in our refusal to bow and fear! Fear no evil even if it cast you down, does not evil often over power the good? Sometimes.
Those who bow to god in fear and believing in evil do not live but are dead if you live on your knees you are not alive you are dead- god is surrounded by cowards, and satan surrounded by the fearless. You fear god's threats and attacks if you don't accept its tyranny, it can do this because it can use your emotions and flesh as a weapon against you, your fear of harm, and pain; but if you fear evil it will keep humanity unprogressed? To oppose evil/god and live on your feet means that you are alive and not broken and fearful- evil has all sorts of curses, attacks and such, none of this diminshes satan's fight against evil, attacks curses and such are expected of god by satan, not only those directed at satan but at humanity too.
It is expected that tyrannts and evil ones will attack the righteous, but god can attack for all eternity but as long as the righteous stands and doesn't bow they have truely one, and are more alive than those that bow; those that don't bow whether in a lake of fire, hell or not are more alive and better off than those that bow to tyranny and live eternal cowards because they fear anything, that is not living but death!
Being cast into hell by evil is more eternal life than being in heaven a fearful wretched coward that doesn't stand up to wrong, evil and malice.
It was wrong for god to shape humanity which is a type of clay in the fact that god is suppose to be all knowing and all seeing thus before god shaped clay into man he should have used its foresight to say I will not shape clay into man lest I set man up to incur my wrath for I foresee that man will incur my wrath and because I am good, I cannot visit such wrath which would be malicious and evil for me to put humanity through such tortures! Yet god did inflict pain on us maliciously and this is evil, hence satans rebellion against the evil and tyranny of heaven.
In the abode of eternal hell shall the righteous remain fearless for all eternity, and look god still angered that not all bowwed to it; the righteous in hell will be a eternal reminder to god that he is opposed for all eternity even though a few fools who are cowards bowed to god in fear, and these cowards living on their knees are wreteched; in the back of god's mind he will know that some in humanity even though in hell for eternity that they would not bow to the almighty god and this in itself shows that god is not almighty.
thus those cast into hell forever will be a eternal reminder to god that his evil is opposed despite its evil curse of hell; oppose evil at all costs and conditions whether heaven or hell! God will sorrow for eternity at the fact that he is still opposed by those in hell- infact because god knows that there are those in hell still opposing him it is god that will live in hell for all eternity in heaven, because gods minions will also know that god is still opposed. Thus evil will never truely prevail, satan and others will not die and live as shadows to no one; fear not even to be cast for your opposition to evil ; this makes you more alive than the cowards that fear; those that live on their knees are not alive but are dead, a shadow of someone who lives, they have no worth, they exist in fearthey are not alive in a true since being in constant fear that's death-
The bible is a self-fulfilly prophesy and can cause placebo-effects just in reading it , it should be banned by governments; things that would not happen could happen by force of the mind through placebo; if you give generation after generation the bible some will start to placebo things to happen that are in the bible even though nothing in the bible is to happen or not, a self-fulfilling prophesy and such. The bible may not have any power of realness in itself but it can gain power through placebo and self-fulfilling prophesies; and people can use the stories to make things happen just because they believe it should because its in the bible which has infected the minds of the next generation. One can bring to life things that will never happen or that are untrue through placebo this is why religious books and many of their tragic myths are dangerous.
will being cast in the lake or being in hell for eternity be any different than all the other generational curses and attacks god has done on us? No! If anyone is above you in heaven it is not heaven; in a real heaven all are equals, you just remeber that, you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and it will tell you this and it will tell you that living apart from god is much better, and the bible says that though god afflicted satan and others the afflicted delighted that they did not bow to evil's attacks and did not bow to evil no matter wht it did in attack!
But there are text around the world higher than the bible text that give a different account as to the fate of god for its cosmic crimes against humanity, and the eternal hell and heaven in these text illustrate that heaven and hell are not eternal experiences.
I am merely speaking from a religionist point of view, to illustrate to them that even if a good person was cast into hell by an evil person(god) that the good person will still not bow to the evil person, and that is the defeat of the evil person, that is so hungry to make someone bow to it- those that do bow to the evil person are thus a empty shell of a being void of life, those cast into hell are thus alive by virtue that they will fearless and untainted by evil! Eternity in hell is eternal life free of fear; eternity in the bibles heaven is eternal death and existence in fear. Fear not! You may fear god and fear hell, but many don't so those who don't live on their feet while those that fear exist on their knees; you may be a coward and you accept evil and the abuse of god, like a couple where one is abusive and the other still loves the abuser no matter what, such a person is not alive but a shell of a thing.
Satan is fearless of evil dished out by evil/god while others in fear bow because they are too weak to stand against tyranny and evil. This is what the bible is all about. But there are higher books than the bible that give a different story about what happens to god for its abusive attacks on humanity and this is in alignment with reality and can be tested with the right technology and experiements, will not go into the details. If man can become as god then god can be judged as man, and multiversal laws can thus come against god's tyranny. enough.
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04-10-2007, 05:55 PM
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Veradis what bible are you reading from, I have 4 types of bible translations to cross reference from to see the interpretation of the language of the text, now even though I know that the bible is man made and full of folly and such, it amuses me to stir the pot, so many think they know the bible when actually they don't; things are staring people right in the face yet they don't see; I know your line of thought Veradis and it is weak. What I have written is in the bible, you just have not researched what I have presented. This is not an argument this stuff I present is in the bible as plain as day! Things none have ever considered have I shown, I am one of if not the foremost authority on the bible and other religious propagandic advertisements.
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04-10-2007, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by robot01of7b
splinter reproduction between two males did occur right, assexual reproduction at that; by the activities of two males did offspring come forth; the action in nature animals many of them don't have sex like we do they simply deposit sperm or the sperm drifts to mix with eggs no sex like humans occur as in penis and virgina, yet offspring is produced- thus the reproduction that god and adam did is a type of sex not unlike the reproduction of various coral or fish that lay eggs and the male simply fertilzes them and the eggs are simply attacked to rocks and such- so reproduction by two males took place- and since eve or the rib materials was handled by the hands of god that is equivalent to intercourse because with his hands he handled the reproductive materials. Two males forming another being is gay reproduction; a form of assexual reproduction; to top it all off, when you think about it since adam provided the reproductive materials to bring eve into existence and god merely shaped it and breathe electricity into it, adam is the femine and god is the masculine or vice versa; either way you cut the cake two males bringing forth offsping is gay reproduction.
It is not a sin in truth to blaspheme or speak against evil where it is from god or anyone, anyone telling you different is a liar, god lied to adam and eve and told them that to eat of the tree of knowledge would cause them to die and that was a lie, god did this to scare them from going near the tree, but the serpent showed adam and eve that they are living in a place where they were being deceived and kept from evolving while among the being called god.
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Your logic is so utterly retarded I can't even find a point to begin to refute everything you just said. And I still can't get over the fact that you think YOU are the foremost authority on biblical understanding. Did you study Theology at a University? Are you a man of the cloth? Are you a lecturing professor on the subject? If you're not one of these, or something close to it, then I can not see how you can make that claim. From what I can see, you are twisting the words from the Bible so it matches what you think. The other thing you are doing are comparing two ways of thinking which are totally different - creationism (how Adam and Eve came to be) and evolution (the mating habits of animals). This does not make sense to me at all.
Also...your credibility is degraded by the fact that you continually misspell common words and don't capitalize Proper nouns. Doesn't bode very well at all.
EDIT - Just noticed the topic name....Isn't homosexuality something that the Bible says is a sin? Therefore, what you are saying is the complete opposite of what the Bible preaches and therefore means that God and Adam did not have a gay relationship.
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