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The true symbol for Pi is Re/Ra Pi is a disconnect?
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Old 07-20-2006, 04:44 PM #1

Studying the circle I did some experiments with circles converting them into linear forms using strings, the string technique I think I got them from a cartoon called 'Cyberspace' shown on Public TV, they show you all types of ways to measure things using strings etc.. In any case inspired by the cartoon I used a string measure approach in measuring circles to find the true meaning of Pi- Only two of my experiments out of four matched, but since in the use of Pi and/or Ra/Re we are talking approximates in general as to circumfrence one thus can see where the logic from Pi comes from as in 3(1/7); the true symbol for Pi or circumfrence is the ksian myth of Re/Ra and it is 3(1/6) or 19/19 or 18/19+1/19 or 1/6+6/6+6/6+6/6 or 1/6+1+1+1=3(1/6) because 6/6=1- using string you can calculate Pi/circumfrence, diameter, radius, and 1/6 which is the core element of circumfrence and nineteen 1/6's or 1/19's equal 19/19 or the circumfrence of a circle.

You can do the experiments yourself to experience Ra or Pi:

get some string and scissors, and a cylindric container that has a flat circular bottom, i.e a large can or container:

tie a piece of the string around the cylindric constainer close near the bottom of the container near the flat surface of the bottom of the container.

In ksian-kmtian (circle-rectangle) or (Ra-and the goddess of the brick of childbirth)=the word Ra/Re/R which is also the ksian-kmtian letter r.

Do the experiment and keep in mind the nature of the wisdom of Ra and the aten disk then you can understand the logic better concerning calculation of circumfrence and other geometric shapes.

Now place another string across the middle of the flat part of the container to get the diameter- cut this second string the length of the the diameter of the container's flat circular part-

Now cut the first string the length of the circumfrence of the cylinder. ie. the string tied around the container cut it the length of the circumfrence of the container; the length should be calculated by wraping or tying the first string around the container and then cutting the string at the point where a complete circle is formed which then represents the circumfrence- after you have the string the length that forms a circumfrence cut the string to the circumfrence length and lay it down as a straight line instead of in a circle form. You don't have to tie the string around the cylinder or container as long as you wrap it around the container so you can cut it the length of the circumfrence of the container-

After you have your string the length of the circumfrence of the cylindric container, such as a large can, cut a second string and cut the length of the diameter of the container you use. If you have already done this good.

So now you have two strings a string the length of the diameter and one the length of the circumfrence.

Now take the circumfrence string and the diameter string and hold them together, and cut the circumfrence string into as many diameter string lengths that you can; you should get at least three diameter string lengths out of the circumfrence string- keep the little piece of string that come from the last part of the circumfrence string this is the 1/19 piece of the circumfrence more of less.

You can repeat this experiment several times to see if the results repeat everytime and the results may very from strings to strings and container to container but you will get repeating results at some point.

Now get another piece of string which will be your third piece of string and cut it half the size of your diameter piece of string, this will be your radius piece of string.

Now cut another piece of string the size of the radius piece of string you just cut, now cut this piece of string into three equal pieces of string; each piece should be the same size more or less as the remaining piece of string that was formed when you cut the circumfrence string into diameter parts. Thus the radius of a circle is three 1/19 of the circumfrence- and the it takes three remaining parts of the circumfrence to make a radius- and it takes six remaining parts of the circumfrence to form the diameter-

So the circumfrence has three diameter pieces and one sub-circumfrence piece which is 1/3 of a radius piece; a radius peice is 3/6, a diameter is 6/6 of a diameter piece and 6/19 of a circumfrence piece of string; the circumfrence is three diameter pieces of string or 6/6, 6/6, 6/6, plus the remaining piece of string which is 1/6 of a diameter piece and 1/3 of a radius piece; a radius piece is 3/6 of a diameter piece of string-thus there are nineteen 1/19's in a circumfrence, and of a diameter this means there are nineteen 1/6's in a circumfrence-

18/19+1/19=19/19

3X6=18 +1=19=the circumfrence or 19/19=3(1/6)=Ra or Re and the myth of the journey of Ra speaks of how Re's journey forms a circumfrence around the earth/khnm forming day and night or the 24 hour cycle of a day-

Why is the circumfrence mathematics important or relavent? Beause you experience consciously or unconsciously circumfrence everyday, day and nightly, due to Re/Ra or the sun and its journey round the earth or the earths rotations around the sun make the sun appear to be moving in a circular motion- The sun's/Ra's influence on the earth causing day and night forms a circumfrence, without the formation of the circumfrence that the sun and earth form in rotations if this didn't occur we would not have plants to feed the animals which feed us thus we would not have any energy and our batteries would run down and we would die- we need the sun or a solar principle to live, the sun and earth forming a circumfrence or circular pattern creating day and night causes life on earth. Geometry especially lines and circles mean allot to everyday life for building, the earth spining and orbiting Ra/Aton, the circle which is a line is glorious- Glorificamus Re!

Ra/Re is the true connected symbol for circumfrence not Pi, the symbol of Pi is a disconnect to circumfrence formation- the myth of Re is like the string in the experiment where you can measure a circumfrence by journeying around or in a circular manner- Re is the perfect symbol for the idea of Pi- Pi is 3(1/7) and Re is 3(1/6) both are valid but the Reic is more tangible and can be more well demonstrated, the Pi symbol in its form has no true concection to a circle like the Ra and the Aten symbols. If it were not for the culture teaching you that Pi is used as they symbol or 3(1/7) you could not see any relationship to the symbol and a circle or circumfrence it looks nothing of a circle nor can the Pi symbol form a circle, so the symbol is relative to a cultural use but not to a scientific and factual account for geometric formation like they Ra or Aten is.

Pi is ok but its symbol is weak cultural expression, and no one can make a connection as to the logic of the use of the symbol like you can with the logic of the use of the myth of Ra to see how Ra forms a circumfrence in his journey round the earth or better the earths journey round the sun, which is more correct. Thus the sun and earths interaction forms a circle cycle circumfrence this is the most important math lesson whether you are aware of this or not it occurs but if an imbalance in the relationship of the earth and Ra occurs you will start to pay attention when it affects all sorts of things on the earth.


Ra's journey in his boat as in the ks-kmtian myth measures the circumfrence of the earth and thus forms a circumfrence- but also inside of a circle is the diameter and radius- there are 4 diameters in a circle and 8 radii- thus inside of the circle is a eight point star- or one X and a + which is united to form eight points inside the circle and these lines inside form the diameters and radii.

If you draw a large rectangle so that the rectangle looks like a long line and then if you divide the line into 19 sections which look like small rectangles, so that the rectangluar line is just like the formates used in showing fractions, such as shading in a certain number of squares to show the fraction of a whole but the shape in this case if coming from a rectangular shape that looks like a long line or string divided into rectangular sections- each section thus represents 1/19 of the whole which is 19/19's.

Thus the first six sections shaded represent the first diameter that can be formed by a circumfrence, the next six sections represent the second diameter that a circumfrence converted into a line forms, and the next six sections which is the third diameter a circumfrence forms when converted linearly forms another diameter or 6/6- now the last piece of line or section of the diameter form 1/6 of a diameter and 1/19 of a circumfrence. This demonstrates that there are 19 pieces/sections to a circle/circumfrence which equals 3(1/6) more or less-

A diameter having 6 sections but being 6/19's of a circumfrence and a radius having 3 sections but being 3/19's of a circumfrence; but a radius is 3/6's of a diameter and a diameter is 6/6's of itself-

Moreover a line is 19/19's, thus this brings us to the number one in the ksian lang which is a circle- and when the circle is converted to an anthropormorphic form as in a stick figure holding its arms out in a t form, that is, remember that one person can form a circle with their hands gripped and in them holding their arms up to form a circle, you can draw a stick figure to show this too- thus the head, trunk, and legs of the human body represents the number one and the right and left arms each represent the number 9, so 9+1+9=19, and this means that the arms and body can form a circumfrence which has 19 parts. Thank you Mother Tynetta for inspiring me to be able to calculate 19s like you have done masterfully in your articles over the years!!

The right arm equals 9, the left arm equals 9, and the head, trunk, and legs equal 1= mainly you see the chest and/or back and arms that form the circle in the image of the aten or any cirlces represented in ks-kmtian architechture.

A calculator represents 1/6 as .16 and 1/7 as .14 so there is 3.16 Ra and 3.14 Pi; the circumfrence of 3.16 = 1/6+6/6+6/6+6/6=3.16 remember that 6/6=1 and there are three ones plus 1/6/.16.

All lines are basically circumfrences, this is why the anthorpormorphic symbol of the human body equals 19/19 or 19 because the human body when it stands in a tee shape with arms and body forming a tee it is equal to the arms and chest and/or back forming a line just as these parts can from a circle- thus all lines have 19 sections or fractions to them. A diameter is a fraction of a line or circumfrance and a radius is a fraction of a diameter and a radius has three fractions to itself, of which 1/3 of the radius is the same size as the last piece or fraction in a circumfrence more or less.

Thus the string experiments show you where the 3 and 1/6 is coming from or where the 3 and 1/7 is coming from- you don't have to just take anyone's word for it you can do the math calculations yourself you see- mathematics can be discovery too-

The 3 is coming from three 6/6's and one 1/6 or a diameter piece which thus =19/19 or 3.16, the string experiments can show you this-

You will see the number Pi but the symbol is a cultural thing not connected to cosmic symbol like the symbol of Ra is or like the shapes in the experiment are.

So whether a line or circle is formed anthropormorphically or in the myth of Ra the circumfrence measure is constant-I see the logic for the use of 3(1/7) but the Pi symbol is illogical as a true symbol for circumfrence, that's my overall point.

More over what is illogical is 22/7, i.e., if you draw a rectangle and then place a diameter in the middle of the rectangle and then draw 10 verticle lines in the rectangle so that you form 22 fraction sections you will notice that when you sort the sections into threes that there is one section left over so the means that you have seven threes and one section left which add up to 22 sections which = Pi now this is a disconnect, you thus get a 6/6, 6/6, 6/6 and a 3/4, but in the string experiment you get a better fractional picture using the line shaped fractionally in the form of a long rectangle and you can see the relationship to a line and circumfrence converted to a line more better than if you you calculate 22/7's as a fraction in a fully fractional way in a rectangle which ends up with a 3/4's section or 3/3 and a (1/3 or 1/22) section.

c=3.16/Ra/Re/the Aten disk as the correct Pi symbol times d(diameter);c=[O](ra/aten)d;c=[O]d more correct than c=Pi(d)
d=2(twice) the r
r=.5 the d
c= there are _____ number of radius in a circumfrence
c=there are 3 and 1/6 diameters in a circumfrence
(c=there are four 6/6's in a circumfrence with one of the 6/6's forming the 1/6 part of the circumfrence thus 5/6 of the fourth diameter is not part of the circumfrenece when you keep all diameter even even if the parts of the diameter is not to be used in the circumference count of 3(1/6).)
d=__________ many 1/6's or is ___________ 1/19's
Thus one can measure a circle without Pi, thus Pi is relative to ones culture, this is why Re/Ra/Aten=[O] symbol can be used and is a better symbol for many reasons.

Thus a circumfrence is three diameters and 1/6 a diameter since a diameter is 6/6's- so six 1/6 fractions make up a diameter- so one can say there are 4 diameters in a circle with the fourth diameter having 5/6's of itself not used in the circumfrencesic calculation.

18/19=3=frequency of diameters; 19/19=3(1/6)=circumfrence;6/19=6/6=diameter;3/19=3/6=radius;1/19=1/6=standard size of any section, there are 19 standard sections to a circumfrence- since there are 3 standards in a radius and 6 standards in a diameter. so a line is 19/19 and thus has 19 standard sections.

Thus the ksian lang its number one is a circle and the circle in ksian can be formed anthropormorphically using the human form or a stick figure to form a circle with the arms and hands gripped, thus all circles can be viewed in this way- and the aten and the circle journey of Ra are both the knowledge of circumfrence mathematics-

The circle being a line is thus meaning that a line = 19/19's and has 19 sections and thus a line =3.16, and thus when one forms a triangle the triangle has three lines each equalling 3.16- so in the ksian lang when one anthropormophically form lines or draw them each line equals 3.16- and the circle or number one in ksian its circumfrence is 3.16-

Thus a line and circle in ksian are both 3.16 in value-and thus one see this value everywhere in architecture in the sun's and planets shape etc.- one see geometric shapes everywhere- all of them are basically lines a circle is really a line. The line is one of the core symbols of the ksian lang but the circle is used as the most powerful form of the line, then the triangle shows the line as three 3.16's.

Thus the Ra/Re circumfrence is yet another relative to the fact that with the ksian lang alpha-num symbols one can build architecture with the symbols as well as gain wisdom and understanding from the overall culture.

Thus each line = c in an object such as a triangle or square and c is the circumfrence- thus each line in an object =3.16!

Now one can know this consciously when one builds or thinks about math and geometry.

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Old 07-20-2006, 10:20 PM #2

Thread Moved to correct area....
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Old 07-21-2006, 02:29 AM #3

Please tell me you're copying/pasting all these threads...
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Old 07-21-2006, 06:00 AM #4

I don't think he does.....
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Old 07-21-2006, 06:27 AM #5

Either way I think someone needs to discover that funny thing called the 'real world' and that other most funny of things called 'women'
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Old 07-21-2006, 04:48 PM #6

ahhhh women... the cure for all nerdism. good call swampy
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Old 07-21-2006, 09:05 PM #7

I'm going with a copy paste job, does he actually expect us to understand this shit even if we take the time to read it...myself, I have a brunch date so there's no way in hell I'll be wasting my time.
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:40 AM #8

I can quite honestly say, I read the first 3 lines then got bored...
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:27 AM #9

You're not allowed to apply pi and such irrational numbers in curved space if I remember correctly. In any case, you would have to prove first that it is a constant.

I'm not sure whether such proof exists currently, so that may be a better starting point..

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Old 11-29-2006, 02:44 PM #10