In a fight, who do you think would win? Neo or Yoda? Post your votes and explain them, people.

Well, Neo can most certainly move faster, even if we are talking about a younger Yoda. And while Neo can stop bullets and logically other physical attacks, there is no evidence that he can stop force attacks. There is also the question of how well Neo would be able to defend against a light saber. Of course, if the fight takes place inside the Matrix then all of this is pointless. Neo can manipulate anything inside the Matrix, so we are lead to believe, an ability that would overwhelm any opponent.

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I've been having this discussion with my friends since yesterday.
Very good point, TD.
Where does the fight take place? Besides, even if it takes place in the real world, Neo can still destroy sentinels. I think he could take on a freak little green guy.

Ok, let's be non-move oriented. Yoda is of a race never named by George Lucas, or so I believe so. I've got the encyclopedia somewhere (yes, I was and could still possibly be a major nerd), and we'll see about that. Anyways, there was never another 'alien' that was like Yoda. Neo, on the other hand is 'human'. A feeble-minded individual not capable of comprehending such complex words as 'ergo', and 'concordantly'. As a side note, if Yoda were to have spoken to the Architect, the conversation would have been over in about 2 minutes.

Anyways, my point. Putting aside fighting, Yoda wins hands down just for his mental capacity alone. The Force isn't just moving physical objects witht he mind; there is a certain amount of control and composure, and the mind tricks would definitely kick Neo's ass.

And to make it fair, the fight shouldn't be in the Matrix. At least not in the Earth Matrix. Possibly the Matrix on another world where Neo cannot know exactly how his abilities are gonna play out.

As for the lightsaber, Neo couldn't block that. Pure concentrated light that can slice through anything in a place where rules are governing. And don't give me bullshit about Neo being uber powerful inside the Matrix, and that he can totally break the rules for anything. He still got hit in the Reloaded more than a few times, and he even bled. Smith almost killed him in Revs.

My final answer in a heartbeat: Yoda, hands down.

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Sigh. So why didn't you vote in my poll?
In any case, the fight would be very very close. It wouldn't be hands down either way. I'm almost tempted to say Yoda would win, but I go with Neo, because, frankly, he just has more brawns than Yoda.
Also, if Yoda has a lightsaber, Neo should be able to have guns.
Guns and lightsaber aside, yes Yoda is more wise and has more smarts than Neo. But how would this help him in a fight? Intelligence or wisdom may be helpful, but overall brawns will triumph over brains in this case, and Neo certainly has more brawns than scrawny little Yoda.
I admit. Yoda is an awesome little guy, and he would come very close. It might even be a stalemate. But no way would he beat Neo.
And back to the brains thing, though that's not exactly the point of this thread.
In the Architect's conversation, Neo DID understand it. The Architect had to go through the whole thing to explain it all. Yoda wouldn't have figured it out before the end. He would have had to listen to the whole thing.
He's a Jedi. Not a mind-reader. And yes, he can manipulate minds, but as I'm sure you well know, only the weak minded. And we can probably both agree that the Architect is in no way weak-minded.
Yoda is wise and intelligent. Neo is very smart too. Yoda has been around 900 some odd years. Neo has been around about 35. Obviously Yoda will know more and will have learned more. Neo, given that amount of time, will have grown great in intelligence as well.
But smarts are not the issue here.
One of the powers he has is Jedi mind tricks, and they work on the weak minded. But Neo is not weak minded. He decided to go save Morpheus. He figured out he had to go to the machine city. He nearly beat 100 Smiths. He kicked seven or eight guys' butts, all of whom had deadly weapons.
He can freakin' fly.
Neo is a very very smart person, and he is not weak-minded, so Yoda's tricks would not work on him. And let's not go into Keanu Reeves's acting here, okay?
Anyways, back to brawn.
Even if they fought outside the Matrix, Neo still has powers there. He stopped the Sentinels and Sentinel bombs. Can you imagine the kind of power that takes? Even a concentrated EMP gun shooting at a Sentinel for seven seconds straight doesn't kill it.
Neo destroyed them with just his mind. That, my friend, is powerful. Yoda can't do anything that compares to that.
And on getting beat up in the Matrix, the first doesn't count, since he wasn't the One then, and in the second, he almost beats 100 Smiths, and he is beating Seraph, and would have, and at the Chateau he easily beats the Merv's henchmen.
So, Neo would win, but not hands down, whatever that means. In other words, the fight would be very close, but ultimately Neo would win.

Don't sigh at me. I did vote in your ridiculously-asked poll.

Here's a suggestion: Pay attention.

And another thing: How can you say brains don't matter in a fight. Have you ever been in a fight? How do you think people win wars? Just by taking all their guys into one area and then saying "oh, we have more guys than you do, we'll obviously win." No no, it takes strategery (your good buddy Bush) and tactical thinking. Key word there being thinking. Unless you think with your other head most of the time. Point, Neo would have a hard time following Yoda around. And Yoda was very adept at KNOWING what someone was thinking. Don't talk to me about Star Wars, I knew all there was to know. I could go get the encyclopedia. Anyways, Jedi masters are more powerful then you think.

Also, guns don't stand a chance against lightsabers. Ha! A focused beam of light capable of cutting through ANYTHING against little bullets made of metal. Hm... let's think about that one for a second.

I've given you my answer, choose to accept it or don't accept it. Whatever. Arguing little retarded subjects was not what I had in mind when I replied to this thread. Your first post doesn't say "come in, answer my poll, then argue with me." That's ridiculous.

As I said, Yoda would win, hands down.

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Obviously there is a conflict here. Both movie characters ("Neo" and "yoda", whom I from now of on call "N1" and "Y1") are based upon actual historical characters, with some artistic freedom added, of course. Thus, you have the realistic Yoda, and the realistic Neo, whom the characters are based on. I shall call them "N2" for Neo, and "Y2" for Yoda.

Now, Y2 is obviously not some green space-dwarf, but rather a master in martial arts who lived many years ago, and who tought many great Samourai fighters. N2 is not really some computer nerd who lives in the Matrix. N2 is a combination of two different characters, combined (read part about artistic freedom), whom I shall cal "N3" and "N4".

Now, N3, or of course N4, as there really is no proving which character they used first, was a computer geek who was very much like Thomas A Anderson before he is contacted by Trinity.

N4, or of course N3, as there really is no proving which character they used second, was Jet Li in the movie Kiss of the Dragon ('The one' is, obviously, too obvious) (which is, as a sidenote, a movie worth watching, referring to Kiss of the Dragon, although the one is also worth watching, I must say) and Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee (in Enter the Dragon) and Sylvester Stalone (in Rocky part 1. And 2. And 3. And 4. And 5.).
Thus, we can safely say that N4, or of course N3, as there really is no proving which character they used second, is in fact a very powerful martial artist.

In a who would win poll, or a vs. poll, a horrible abbrevation of versus, a beautiful latin word, later assimilated into the English language, the skills of a hacker are not that interesting, as it's mostly about combat, not about knowledge of good porn sites and typing speed.

Ergo: We have two combat characters: Y2 and N4 (or N3). Now, this would be pretty simple, as it would normally be a Master vs a warrior. However it is not that simple. You see, Y2k was based on something much greater. You see, if we are going to make a comparrison, we have to take in account Chi, which was later translated into the Force in Y1. Y2k, however, does not posses the Force, but rather Chi, which is similar, but different. N4 (or N3), however, does not possess this, since most scientists do not believe it exists. In the time of Y2k, most religious folk did belief it existed.

So, it all boils down to whether or not Chi exists, and whether or not N4 will have time to adapt to a CRE (Chi-rich environment ), or Y2k to a CPE (Chi-poor environment). This than reflects back to Y1 and N1, as they too have to consider a FRE (Force-rich environment, and french) and a FPE (Force-poor environment). Thus, we must ask ourselves who is best at adapting to the new environment, Y1, or N1.

This, I believe is difficult to say. First of all, N1 is a completely moron. He is, after all, not alive. Y1 is not intelligent and can not adapt. After all, he is CG, and is thus a machine, and machines can not think, ecxept for the DEM (Deus Ex Machina), and we can all pretty much see Y1 does not look like DEM. In fact, none of the characters look like DEM.

My conclusion: Because of adaptability issues, and to increase general performance for the overall system, I say DEM.

Mr U

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DEM would probably kill both them, yeah, I agree.
But NMN, in a thread like this, discussion is obviously part of the deal.
And I'm laughing to myself right now. Not at you, but at how heated a debate can get over something so silly. It's really kind of ridiculous to think about such a thing when you stop and think about it.
Anyways, back to the discussion. In war strategy, yes, smarts matter. But Neo is excellent at up close and personal combat, which is what would be the case. When I said brawns would triumph over brain, I put "in this case." Between Yoda and Neo.
And I don't see how Neo wouldn't be able to follow Yoda around. What's the idea with saying that? In up close and personal combat, he wouldn't need to. And Yoda couldn't exactly run away. Neo can fly. He can follow Yoda anywhere, and if in terms of following someone around you mean Yoda can get away, understand, I'm not saying you are saying this, I'm just planning for the contingency of if you are, but anyways, Neo could run away much easier than Yoda.
Yeah, Jedi masters are very powerful. But Neo would still beat him, I believe.
And on a side note, what are our new title things for under our custom user titles?
And anyways, HU, that wasn't very fair of you to add DEM to my poll. It's called Neo Vs. Yoda. That's the whole point of the thread, to vote and argue about attributes of the two. And you putting that destroys the entire purpose of the thread. People were supposed to choose between Neo and Yoda, and if you liked DEM, well, I'm sorry, but he wasn't an option. Go create your own poll. But editing my existing one, thus destroying the entire purpose of the poll, was not a very nice thing to do.

*cough* Rewatch Ep 1. I'm sorry, I know it's torture, but trust me. There is another of Yoda's species.


Riiight, erm, have you seen Yoda move? Think Neo or anyone can hit something moving that fast? Had a brain scan recently?


Yeah, hate to tell you, but Yoda aint connected to the source. What can Neo do to him? Nothing.

That said, it is really close. All I've managed to do is beat down sevral of your points. I think Yoda would win, but that could be just my love of star wars talking.

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HU, are you trying to sell me insurance coverage for my home, in case a plane should crash into it due to the Y2k bug?

Welly welly well, there's Yoda with the force and Neo with the source. A cadential conundrum with no clear solution. Alas, I will have to pick what's behind door number one, and say Yoda. Neo's powers in the real world only extended to da sex machines, and while Yoda is a CG character, I'm sure Neo would have much more trouble with the non-mechanical puppet Yoda.