The APU's are probably the most memorable machines in the Matrix universe. They shoot 30 mm belt fed bullets, stand around 4 metres high and weigh 3 tonnes. Apart from having no protection for the pilot, they are all around gret fighters. Even though they stood no chance against the Sentinels, they surely gave it there all.

Now, if the APU's fought in the battle of Zion, would that make them 600 years old, and being their first ever call to arms? Would of they be used in previous slaughters of Zion, because I dont think Zionites could put together APU's from scrap metal.

Think about the hovercrafts used by the humans, they surely must have been at least 600 years old and built in America before the existance of the Matrix.

This poll will decide whether a new military was created or still operation after 600 years of war.

WELCOME TO THE SITE (i see your from australia, i am also)

anyway back to the topic.
i think it depends on the deletion of the matrices. we know that it is in the 6th version. but when the architect was talking to neo, he gave him the choice of rebuilding zion, with a few chosen people (after zion would be destroyed)
thee A.P.U's are programs, so they can be easily re-built, also the boiler room within the zion, is filled with machince and mechanical things, so it would just be "scrap metal" also the people fom zion are very resourcful people.

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Thanks for your views!
I agree with you all the way, exept when you state the APU's being programs.

well what i meant about A.P.U's being a program, i meant it as in.. they are able to made easily... like a rebuilding a computer, all you need is the information, then its easy to be re-produced.
everything inside and outside of the matrix, has a code.. thus why it is all apart of a program.

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well don't know about the A.P.U.'s
but of the hovercrafts, if you got the animatrix dvd. watch the second renaisance part 2 (i belief) and you see the machines building the hovercrafts.
the exact same hovercrafts that the people from zion later use, to hack into the matrix.

in the first Matrix the Nebuchanezzar was built in 2063 its says so on the ship, but it has to be way older than 600 years old, maybe even hundreds of thousands of years old, because new species dont appear within a span of hundreds of years

Versatrans Flight system was built about ( 6 "choosen" x 25 years between Zion's destruction ) 150 years, how? , very easy, a lot of scrap heaps scattered along the tunnels ( remember that there were a lot of huge cities several hundreds of Kms long ) will contain a lot of rests of ships and vessels using those propulsion pads. Also remember the first conversation between Morpheus and Neo in which Morpheus told him that they aren't in 1999 but in 2199...more or less 200 years, although he couldn't swear if he's right.



The APU, I agree, It's the coolest Mech ever seen in a film ( except, maybe, the "CAIN" mech of Robocop 2 and the "ED209" mech of Robocop 1 ). If you don't care of installing Half-Life 1 in your PC...try this

http://mods.moddb.com/6540/zion-warcry/image-gallery/


Install it and feel like MIFUNE riding your own APU...aniway, I'm almost finishing the final version, be patient for a lot of new cool things.

Hope you like it

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Allow me to obliterate your stoopid opinion:

These armed forces bravely throw just about every available wartime cliche and stereotype at the invading hordes. There's the grizzled GI Joe-type captain, the fearful young cadet who bravely rises to the challenge, the doomed extras, plucky heroines, etc.

Human operators are strapped onto the front of each robotic exoskeleton. These grasp oversized machineguns in each of their grippers. Their massive arms and legs are apparently driven by powerful hydraulic muscles designed to mimic the movements of their human operators.

While their visual impact is impressive, the robot's design is outright silly for combat purposes. Their operators are not even equipped with head-sets. They have to primarily communicate by yelling over battlefield noise. The robots are huge lumbering targets which have to be supplied by an assistant running back and forth with an ammunition laden wheelbarrow. Their machineguns have no apparent aiming system other than watching the tracer bullets. Okay, this could work at close range but is not an efficient way to use ammunition.

Of course, the tracer bullets fired by the robots' guns always fly in perfectly straight lines with no hint of a parabolic trajectory, the machineguns never overheat and are able to blast away for incredibly long periods. The machineguns themselves would produce a substantial thrust which would be applied at the ends of the robot's arms. These would act like levers magnifying the thrust forces and creating considerable torques on the robot. Keeping the robots balanced, stable, and on-target would be a significant undertaking.

Worst of all the robots offer no protection for their operators. The operators do not even wear helmets, let alone flack jackets and there is no armor plating or bullet proof glass around them. Inside the concrete domed room, machinegun bullets would be ricocheting everywhere along with falling chunks of concrete and miscellaneous bits of shrapnel. The operators would be lucky to last 30 seconds in such an environment even without the attacking sentinels.

To come up with the robot/operator combination, the moviemakers have taken the image of the quintessential Hollywood action hero blazing away with a Mac10 in each hand and injected it with steroids. While they have thoughtfully provided assistants with wheelbarrows to re-supply the ammunition, they should probably have equipped them with dump trucks.

In a number of cases, sentinels by the hundreds stream directly toward the blazing guns of the robots and are blasted from the air by the heroically screaming robot operators. This would be about as effective as trying to stay dry by shooting a squirt gun against a fire hose. Yes, it would be possible to knock out the on-board computers and mechanical systems in the sentinels but bullets would do little to counteract their forward momentum.

If two objects collide head on in an inelastic collision (meaning they fuse together) and both have the same magnitude of momentum, the forward velocity of the fused objects will be zero. In the case of sentinels, they would drop from the air. If we assume that a sentinel has a mass of 500 kg ( 1100 lbs) and a velocity of 30 m/s (67.4 mph) its momentum would be 3020 Ns. Assume each sentinel is hit by 10, 20 mm cannon bullets with ballistic properties identical to those used in U.S. fighter aircraft and that the bullets fuse with the sentinels. Each bullet would have a momentum of 104 Ns for a total of 1040 ns. The sentinels would lose only a third of their forward velocity and crash into the robots at about of 20 m/s. This would be more than enough velocity to seriously injure or kill unprotected robot operators.

Even if the machinegun bullets contained high explosive that blew the sentinels apart, the pieces would still continue in a forward path. Blowing the sentinels apart would be like converting them from rifle bullets to shotgun blasts. The fragments of the sentinels would still pummel and seriously injure or kill the robot operators.

Gun smoke and fumes from numerous fires and explosions could easily reach toxic levels in an enclosed underground room, not to mention totally obscure vision. The noise alone would knock out human ability to hear and communicate. The threshold of sound intensity for pain is about 130 dB. A single machinegun blast could be as high as 170 db. Setting off hundreds of these per second inside a concrete domed room would be deafening. Mounting a defense under these conditions, using the weapons and tactics depicted would not just be ineffective, it would be suicidal.

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