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Old 07-16-2004, 08:38 AM #16

your minds deceive you all,all except one...the first one who made this thread...understand with me for the machiens do control us until we are "free" from it all. but why must we go back in to save more if not risk life on doing so?
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Old 07-16-2004, 11:28 AM #17

wait a minute the author of this thread is talking about spoilers yet I've seen the series at least 10 times over (27 to be exact). and you freedom of the mind has always been reachable but what if there is no existence beyondd the mind what if we already don't have a body? What if you free yourself you end your existence there is a mind beyond mind. but after that how can you be so sure that there is another world?
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:07 PM #18

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I just rewatched The Second Renaissance (TSR), and I don't know if it's all true. I've heard spoilers from Revolutions that make me think maybe it's a lie created by the machines to fulfill the prophecy, here's my convictions:

1) 01 (the machine city) was supposed to be destroyed according to TSR, but exists in Revolutions.
2) The humans blacked out the sky (I don't know if they meant for it to be permanent) and in Revolutions there are pictures of a blue sky as well as spoilers saying that the sky is magically blue again.
3) Humans were forced into bondage by the machines in TSR, but I've read in spoilers that humans chose that (for what reason? I don't know).
4) the whole episode TSR is accessed through the Zion mainframe archives, so it's a file. It could be a file that the machines created to tell humans the story that the machines want them to know in order to fulfill the prophecy.

This is all just an idea, but feel free to comment/criticize.


1) it wasnt destroyed...the machines won!
2) neo and trinity left the black cloud and saw the sun for the first time...
3) they didnt choose...you misheard or something
4) no, its like oral tradition writen down...
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Old 06-28-2005, 05:28 AM #19

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Originally Posted by Valasher
I just rewatched The Second Renaissance (TSR), and I don't know if it's all true. I've heard spoilers from Revolutions that make me think maybe it's a lie created by the machines to fulfill the prophecy, here's my convictions:

1) 01 (the machine city) was supposed to be destroyed according to TSR, but exists in Revolutions.
2) The humans blacked out the sky (I don't know if they meant for it to be permanent) and in Revolutions there are pictures of a blue sky as well as spoilers saying that the sky is magically blue again.
3) Humans were forced into bondage by the machines in TSR, but I've read in spoilers that humans chose that (for what reason? I don't know).
4) the whole episode TSR is accessed through the Zion mainframe archives, so it's a file. It could be a file that the machines created to tell humans the story that the machines want them to know in order to fulfill the prophecy.

This is all just an idea, but feel free to comment/criticize.



Cough cough, come on man, you can't be serious enough to have theroys that are completly oppisite to the fact of the movie and its ideas.

1) The Machine City, 01, expanded across the world wiping out each city in its wake, it was damgaged by the sheer force of the neuclear bombs but easily repaired by AI 'workers'. It was never destroyed, where you got such a stupid idea I do not know, sorry man but its true!

2)In TSR the sky was was basically exchanged by a blanket of inpenetrable black smoke to block out any contact with the suns energy. Neo and Trinity flew through the black smoke that was still there 100s of years after because of its technologicaly advanced chemical potency but it never destroyed the sky. So when Neo and Trinity flew through, they saw the actual sky before plumetting to reality.

3)You must have read wrong quote *We shall use your bodies as a sufficient power source, WE DEMAND IT.* *Nueclear explosion* Need I say more???

4)The machines aren't big on prophecies, and Zion is where the rebels situated themselves, they made a rather rough version of how the Matrix came about, yes there is a possiblilty that the Zion Archives would have been tampered by the machines, but a very slim possibility at that! And anyway, if they had been tampered with, Zion would'nt have shown anybody, realising what the machines are trying to do!

I hope you take into consideration your problems with the Matrix that are realy quite insignificant.
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Old 06-28-2005, 05:32 AM #20

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Originally Posted by Valasher
I just rewatched The Second Renaissance (TSR), and I don't know if it's all true. I've heard spoilers from Revolutions that make me think maybe it's a lie created by the machines to fulfill the prophecy, here's my convictions:

1) 01 (the machine city) was supposed to be destroyed according to TSR, but exists in Revolutions.
2) The humans blacked out the sky (I don't know if they meant for it to be permanent) and in Revolutions there are pictures of a blue sky as well as spoilers saying that the sky is magically blue again.
3) Humans were forced into bondage by the machines in TSR, but I've read in spoilers that humans chose that (for what reason? I don't know).
4) the whole episode TSR is accessed through the Zion mainframe archives, so it's a file. It could be a file that the machines created to tell humans the story that the machines want them to know in order to fulfill the prophecy.

This is all just an idea, but feel free to comment/criticize.

Cough cough, come on man, you can't be serious enough to have theroys that are completly oppisite to the fact of the movie and its ideas.

1) The Machine City, 01, expanded across the world wiping out each city in its wake, it was damgaged by the sheer force of the neuclear bombs but easily repaired by AI 'workers'. It was never destroyed, where you got such a stupid idea I do not know, sorry man but its true!

2)In TSR the sky was was basically exchanged by a blanket of inpenetrable black smoke to block out any contact with the suns energy. Neo and Trinity flew through the black smoke that was still there 100s of years after because of its technologicaly advanced chemical potency but it never destroyed the sky. So when Neo and Trinity flew through, they saw the actual sky before plumetting to reality.

3)You must have read wrong quote *We shall use your bodies as a sufficient power source, WE DEMAND IT.* *Nueclear explosion* Need I say more???

4)The machines aren't big on prophecies, and Zion is where the rebels situated themselves, they made a rather rough version of how the Matrix came about, yes there is a possiblilty that the Zion Archives would have been tampered by the machines, but a very slim possibility at that! And anyway, if they had been tampered with, Zion would'nt have shown anybody, realising what the machines are trying to do!

I hope you take into consideration your problems with the Matrix that are realy quite insignificant.
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