how can we avoid the rise of the machines???

building their "brains" able to learn "how to think" so they can assume, or infer in common sense.....

What do you think??

or suggest??

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To be honest, I don't really think there is a 'safe mode'. The safest thing to do would be program Ai with Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics, but if you read his stories, you'll find that the laws don't always help. If you don't know, the laws are:
1)A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction allow a human being to come to harm
2) A robot must obey the orders given it by the human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law
3) A robot must protect it's own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Now imagine a situation where a human wants to do something the robot considers dangerous. He wouldn't allow the human to do it. The human gets fed up not being allowed to do anything, and decides to dismantle the robot. The robot knows that this would be dangerous for the human because then he would have no-one to protect him, and decides it is in the humans best interest for the robot to be in charge.

In another sci-fi short (I can't remember the name) A scientist called Sledge creates AI, but when they start causing a problem brought about by the Laws, Sledge decides to deactivate the machines. Because this would ultimately be bad for him, the machines actually perform a partial labotomy on Sledge to remove the knowledge neccesary to destroy them.

If we create true AI, then one day I really believe that they will be in control.
Think how much we rely on mchines now- eventually they will effectively run our lives, ie: if we turned one off, it would be detrimental to our health, or worse. At that point, the machines are in charge. Now imagine that the machines were conscious. Scary. But bound to happen.

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If Machines can make their own decisions, then they cannot be controled. Agression will eventually occur. Can we survive one war with machines?

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With even a limited amount of intelligence, these rational creatures would soon logically deduce their superiority over us. In which case, they would stop taking our orders, and they'd be in charge. It's not so much that their actions would eventually become aggressive, it's just why would they take orders from someone who is mentally and physically beneath them?

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guys heres what bothers me about this, first we have to look at facts and theorys not sci fi,

a. what thinks faster a human or a calculator, and if a calculator can think like what 1000 times faster than a human can calculate then in theory they can figure out that the meaning of life in no time at all, considering that all of our solar system is based on the theory of one truely linked calculation.

b. if machines become too smart then no they won't control us or destroy us, do we destroy or animals how man sheep or monkeys have all of you killed in your life time, thats all were gonna be amusement to them, and also eisten said when we use at least 10 percent or something of our brain we would be too smart to commit crimes so that means if this sci fi becomes possible they pose no threat to us at all

think about it

what do you mean by that ?
is there any scientifical evidence ?

im pretty interested actually..

Aggression will occur? Why?

Remember: the feeling of self-control is created by a part of our brain. We are not free. Everything we type and create is a logical result of our social history, which is recorded in the brain. A computer will never be original or evil or good, unless it's memory has recorded these kind of emotions or memories.

The fear to be controlled is illogical: we are already being controlled. By philosofizing about control in the future we tend to forget we are already being controlled. Our very lives (social history) are being (almost) completely run by the media. Thank god that the internet supplies us with all the information, so we can choose what we want as a part of us, and what we don't.

We should ask ourself whether we want to be controlled, not whether some giant robots will in the future!

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we rely on machines far too much, i was reading about computers that have started developing viruses on its own! to some this may seem like pure mathematical brilliance.. i see this as the beginning of big trouble..

if they are startin to develop their own viruses and they realise that we are too dependant on them, we are in the 5h1t

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I think its possible for AI to exest in a safe invirement,while still having a mind of its own.Its simple just make it in the form of a virus.Basicly create a virus then program it to think for its self.Then you could create a folder with programs for it to mess with and learn.Also to keep it in the folder you would need to put the virus wall from the folder to the rest of the computer,instead of the internet and computer.But the only way to be sure of a safe invirment is to disconect the internet.well please coment me on my ideas.

Thats very interesting but,if a computer is creating viruses then its just confustion being sent out,efecting other computers.So bottom line something important is imcomplete.

Hi everyone, this is my first post ever to this site.

There are few topics within this thread that are discussed on the DVD Roots of the Matrix "The Hard Problem:The Science Behind the Fiction" from the 10 disc set. Has anyone here seen it?

When I think of a computer creating its own viruses, I think of emergence and evolution. Like the human body, it seems natural that a complex system would develop such things over time. And not all viruses are "bad" - what matters is their purpose, or their effects on the survivability of the organism in question.

As to whether or not a machine could ever truly become sentient; if consciousness in humans is caused by emergence (trillions of neurons firing-off in our brains), then I'm not so sure we could argue that even we ourselves are sentient! IMHO, the more complex a system is, the more "alive" it seems to be.