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PK4788
Matrixe's Don Quixote
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07-07-2003, 12:42 AM
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Sorry, but i skimmed a little on this post
The one big reason that i know were not ai, is because we have a brain, we have nerve endings, we bleed, we feel emotion. If the robots could create an exact replica human with no mechanical parts, then there would be no difference between ai and real.
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07-20-2003, 01:32 AM
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A human will always be led by insticts, a machine won't ever be. Even if jealous of the man's insticts,emulates them, will always be in position to turn them off. a man cannot kill his own insticts.
Root insticts like the need of reproduction are the reason why humans have the need to reproduce. A.I. would have to initiate reproduction procedures by intelligence.
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07-27-2003, 04:39 AM
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people talk like AI are just machines, but has anyone ever considered the fact that the human body is a machine also? there are a multitude of systems (digestive, circulatory, respatory) that are needed to keep the body alive. no different from a machine.
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11-11-2003, 05:08 AM
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Is Bane controlled by Smith human or AI?
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hmm
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05-04-2004, 10:52 AM
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For machines to become self aware would require not just artificial intelligence, but emotion, which is derived from experience, so abstract thought is required to create an opinion on experience, and thus derive useful information from experience, however, without first becoming self aware, a machine could not become self aware, you would need to be self aware to become self aware, as you need emotion and abstract thought to develop emotion and abstract thought, making Artificial intelligence impossible, or just artificial. If you understand that well done, you are not a machine.
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05-04-2004, 06:39 PM
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I haven't read all the posts,so maybe I will just repeat what someone would have already said...
Firstly,some of you speak of A.I as if it was a concrete reality:yes,A.Is exist at the moment I am wrinting these words,but no one has ever reported that one of them has got a consciousness...
Well,I believe that the crucial question that you're all ommitting is the following one:what is consciousness,and how could an A.I have a consciousness???
And even if an A.I had a consciousness,how would it be able to give the irrefutable proof of his consciousness instead of his programming???
I won't tell that I am a "master" in computer science but the fact that I have already dealt with programming at an acceptable level made me understand one thing:man have no idea of how complex is the brain and its functioning...
Its ability to analyse so many informations(and to select the ones that are "relevant"),its adaptability,its capacity of learning ever and ever again,its ability to make parallels,analogies,to make comparisons,to make recognitions,to abstract...to memorize so many datas...Guess what it would be in terms of "bits" storage to store all your memory in a hard disc.
In comparison,a computer just do the same thing in a loop:read,execute,write,read,execute,write,etc...
And all the present A.Is are only doing what thay are programmed for,nothing more...
Let me tell it loud:the human brain IS A MIRACLE in this world.And no one at this moment is able to explain how the brain functions really:you will always be able to find some good articles explaining how the neurons are connected and how they communicate each other,but no where you'll have an explanation of what is consciousness...
Because no one knows what is consciousness(and why it exists) and no one knows why is the homo sapiens so specific...People believe that it is due to his genetic code,but when you see our "closest cousins"(sharing almost all(99%) of our genes)...
The ADN(organic molecule) is a program:but the question is who(or what,for those who do not believe) programmed it???
Are our genes conscious to program us,like some of you implicitly said it???
And how would they know how to program us to be so specific???
How could the genes(that have no brain to think,nor neurons) program a such complex thing as the brain???
Scientists are talking as if they knew everything but actually they know almost nothing...
And more for those who don't know:the genes are not the "programmers",they are the program.Our chromosoms are only a condensated phase of the ADN,or to be short,genes==ADN.
So,you'll understand that I take the Matrix Trilogy for what it is:a movie,a fiction...An interesting one on many perspectives,but also a limited one:the guys who made these three movies do not know more than you and me about "consciousness"...
So when you hear the Architect saying "Although the process has altered your consciousness,you remain irrevocably human":you have to understand that this is a science-fiction movie...
But at the same time,they(the Wachos Brothers) are conscious of the real problems with the Artificial Intelligence(Neo is an A.I,but the purpose of this post is not to debate of that here).
It's quite courageous to try to approach a so complex theme:consciousness...
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05-05-2004, 01:10 AM
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ALERTWe human beings have that trillioncelled supercomputer BRAIN no AI can challange its innovative or imaginative powers.AM I CLEAR?
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Shadow Guard
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01-06-2005, 03:41 PM
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Because humans let emotions get in the way of the logical decisions. like if your dog got cancer humans would spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars to fight the cancer where I can only believe that a A.I. would look at the problem and deduce that it would be better for everyone it the animal was put down the same day it found out.
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