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Old 11-01-2007, 04:49 AM #1

I'm not an expert, I just watched Matrix once and recently, but I'm a political philosopher and I noted that Matrix is strongly libertarian. Do you think the same?
(You can look at issues like: State doesn't exist; They control us, they lei us, they give us false goods to give us false illusion and false feelings; to free our mind; We accept this to be happy; Ignorance make happy; ecc)
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:23 PM #2

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I'm not an expert, I just watched Matrix once and recently, but I'm a political philosopher and I noted that Matrix is strongly libertarian. Do you think the same?
(You can look at issues like: State doesn't exist; They control us, they lei us, they give us false goods to give us false illusion and false feelings; to free our mind; We accept this to be happy; Ignorance make happy; ecc)


Considering there is an active police force, I would hesitate to affirm the suggestion that a state does not exist - unless one were to argue in Zion, where I would argue that the Council of Elders, as well as the hierarchy in the ships can not be commensurated with a stateless view.
Further, I would hesitate to brand the notion of 'They control us', which seems more closely related to paranoid-schizophrenia than political science - let alone philosophy - and, indeed, libertarianism.
As for lei, I fear I have I'm not sure I understand the relationship between libertarianism, the Matrix, and flower-necklaces.
As for the Quasi-Orwellian suggestions, I do not recognise them in the Matrix. I will admit that it is ambiguous, but then so is a sperm stain on the wall. Oddly enough, that does seem quite related to both the Matrix and libertarianism.

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Old 11-26-2007, 04:57 AM #3

Libertarianism is not so much a political philosophy as it is a sexual fantasy. It is the doctrine of oddly-dressed men with dead-end civil service jobs and no social graces who couldn't get a date with a beautiful woman to save their lives. "If only," they think, eying some statuesque stranger on the subway, "I could reshape our society from top to bottom, so that the only positive value was the acquisition of wealth. Then I could simply offer her money to go out with me — and it'd be immoral for her to turn me down!"
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