Thanks Apollo, you are right, it is as you say. That and most of my weekends are taken up by school related things. If anyone knows what Ten Tors is, I shall be doing that this weekend, the 45 mile course. With things like this, it means that I am often too tired to try nething new. But I admire it. And I want to start it, when I sort my life out properly. Until then I intend to only marginally poke the laws of gravity.