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Why didn't Neo turn into an agent?
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veradis
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08-16-2005, 09:24 AM
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I thought of this while I was watching the movie for about the billionth time the other day, and I don't think this has been discussed here yet. If anyone plugged in to the matrix can turn into an agent, why wouldn't Neo, especially when he was running from the agents at Metacortex?
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DonDaddy
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08-16-2005, 09:42 AM
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For the same reason that people in the matrix keep running out of imaginary bullets in their imaginary guns; plot holes tend to make the movie more enjoyable to watch.
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08-16-2005, 10:19 AM
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Veradis, it also leaves room for another movie. Follow me here. I know that Neo is dead and that Trinity is dead as well but, as we all know a movie can change that if it wishes too. They mentioned others as "The One" in the movie. That means that the cycle has been repeating and that this Neo just happened to beat the system. They could always do as we know a reset so to speak if the machines decided they did not like the way things turned out and the whole thing could begin again.
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08-16-2005, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by veradis
I thought of this while I was watching the movie for about the billionth time the other day, and I don't think this has been discussed here yet. If anyone plugged in to the matrix can turn into an agent, why wouldn't Neo, especially when he was running from the agents at Metacortex?
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Because Neo wasn't hardlined into the matrix like everyone else still plugged in. What I mean is those who were freed, Neo, Trin, Morpheus etc. were hacking into the matrix by broadcasting from underground from one of their ships. So the agents wouldn't be able to 'trace' the lines from the ship broadcasts because they don't originate from within the matrix mainframe. But everyone who hasn't been freed can turn into an agent because they are still plugged into the 'authentic' matrix, and are not hacked in like Neo and the others.
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veradis
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08-16-2005, 03:19 PM
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I was talking about before Neo was freed. Is it a plot hole or is there an explanation somewhere?
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renegade-agent
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08-16-2005, 03:21 PM
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yeah-it's a plothole,if they had taken him over-that really would have messed up the films future money making potential methinks
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08-16-2005, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by veradis
I was talking about before Neo was freed. Is it a plot hole or is there an explanation somewhere?
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OH! wish you had been more specific, in that case, it was probably just to keep the story going by not killing off the hero. duh. Or maybe only people who are completely unaware of the matrix can become an agent. Since Neo was already aware of the matrix, maybe he couldn't have been taken over so easily.
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Apollo440
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10-21-2005, 09:45 PM
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THIS IS NOT A PLOT HOLE!
Had to say it big so you understand
Smith wanted Neo to lead him to Morpheus, Smith wasn't really interested in Neo he wants Morpheus and he interrogates him rather than killing him
I would of assumed the interrogation scene made this clear to everyone.
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The_Traveler
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11-22-2005, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Apollo440
THIS IS NOT A PLOT HOLE!
Had to say it big so you understand
Smith wanted Neo to lead him to Morpheus, Smith wasn't really interested in Neo he wants Morpheus and he interrogates him rather than killing him
I would of assumed the interrogation scene made this clear to everyone.
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Not only that, but I would also like to suggest we all think of the logicalities of an agent overtaking the subject, in order to capture the subject. When an agent over takes a persons body, he basically overwrites their shell. Whether or not this is reversible, I'm not entirely sure, because I believe that we have never seen a person revert back to their old shell unless the agent was killed while using the person, thus leaving them dead. So, making Neo an agent for easy capture would not be the best decision in my opinion.
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Apollo440
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11-23-2005, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The_Traveler
When an agent over takes a persons body, he basically overwrites their shell. Whether or not this is reversible, I'm not entirely sure,
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From what i've read of the EU it is reversable but the 'host' as they can be called has no recollection of the events that took plase while they were Agents, its all just like a blackout for them
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DonDaddy
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11-23-2005, 10:23 AM
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That seems kind of odd that if their 'shell' was overwritten it could be restored. Where would the information to restore the person back to original come from?
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