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View Poll Results: Have the APU's and Hovercrafts been operational after 600 years of war?
The Zion Military's fleet has been used for 600 years 2 28.57%
The fleet is rebuilt and new after every 100 years 5 71.43%
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Old 03-02-2007, 11:06 PM #16

It is not only a matter of physics, its a matter of practicallity. As a Marine I have gotten to blow shit up, defend shit, and attack shit. I can tell you this much, even if you put full plate on these things, they are still HORRIBLE for combat purposes. But really, the big issue here is the squids. Their combat effectiveness is laughable. As I said in ym original reply, the screen impact of all this is impressive, but the fact that it takes place in the real world vice the matrix means it needs to adhere to at least some rules. This scene, as kewl as it looks, perfectly expresses everything I hate about the sequals. The first movie was smart, the other two were all glitz and glitter.
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:30 PM #17

So you're a Marine?, heh, I can now understand why you talk so easily in such technic way.

So, what could be the best way to build a warmachine like that?, I saw some biped mechs built as demonstration robots, even, not so long ago,I saw on TV a mech built to be used for playing paintball or such ( even it could carry one pilot !! ).

Of course the coordination between the hydraulic walking mechanism and the movement program must be extremely accurate, but, in terms of firepower, what's the gun you'll use ?, I don't think you like the M81A Gatling systems, or a Phalanx ( even when I think that , as a weapon, they are a mass destruction weapon but a simple machine-gun )
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Old 03-04-2007, 01:43 AM #18

The big problem when you talk about a mech-suit like that is controlling the weapon. As I said, having the guns on the ends of the arms creates a huge problem. Knowing that the enemy is going to be a swarm of machines, in one form or another, will dictate a lot. Now, not knowing anything about what resources are available, I have to assume that you would only be able to build a limited number of units. As such, it only makes sense to give the mechs as much rapid fire power as possible, to an extent. You want to balance the ammo usage so that you get a satisfactory ammo spent to enemy killed ratio.

If you want to talk about the movie scenario in real terms, a mech is simply the wrong way to go. The caliber and rate of fire desired just make a mech impractical. You also have to consider the combat area, in this case a relatively small, enclosed space. We see how little the mechs actually move during combat so it would have been a better use of resources to build mounted guns.

The dock is nothing more than a large dome, which makes things easy. The guns could be mounted on tracks which allow them to move across the entirety of the dome in arcing rings. This would allow for interlacing fields of fire and a geometric firing angle on every angle in the room from every angle in the room. This would also eliminate the need for some poor bastard to run around the battle field with a wheelbarrow full of ammo.

If I had my choice of weapon system to be used I would go with the MetalStorm Heavy Assault Mag Gun. This would eliminate a great deal of the noise and all of the residual powder smoke. The weapons would operate at a cooler level, have a higher sustained rate of fire, and be much easier to maintain and reload. For something more conventional I would select the 30MM GE Mini-Gun. 6,000 depleted uranium rounds per minute tends to get the job done.
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:55 AM #19

I agree with the Gatling systems. I saw a phalanx firing to a plane shredding it as if it was made of paper, in only 1 or two seconds and the noise was similar to the one made by a 50cc moto with a bad mounted exhaust.

Aniway, I love playing with the APUs , dumb but cool.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:35 AM #20

Of course, asking for 30MM rounds is me simply assuming that this would be possible with the given resources. As is asking for those guns to be mounted on rails. I don't think it's much of a stretch though given how much ammo they expend in the battle and the fact that they were able to construct such horrifyingly complex mech-suits. It would seem that all of their time was spent "freeing" engineers when they could have desperately used a few tacticians.

Of course, all of this could be made mute if the humans would have just built a grid of redundant, fault-tolerant EMP's....you know...since the machines never figured out that it is in fact possible to shield against such things.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:20 AM #21

In fact I don't know why the engineers doesen't planned a way to make a battery of ten or more "Phalanx" wait near the collision point under the breach point, so they could deal with the incoming squiddies and the drill itself.

I think that the APU was a powerlifter rebuild to carry those guns, and then putted in the bridges and then they told them "Ok, guys, go and clean out the mess the Commandant Lock has donewith his incompetence!!"
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:41 PM #22

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Coward. If you are afraid of having your shit wrecked then just say so or stay the fuck out of the conversation. If you actually have something worth while to contribute (slim fucking chance) then please do so. This is NOT the Blitz and as such, responses like yours are not conducive to the betterment of this forum.
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Old 03-17-2007, 04:02 PM #23

It was a joke, dude.

I am not actually remotely interested in the discussion.
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