America's rise to global control

america the only country in history to have such power and control over the rest of the world will be the first to rise to complete global dominance, does the us not have its troops in every continent (except that of antartica) they try to force impose their beliefs and morals unto everyone they go nearly everywhere in the world and do almost anything they want unchallenged by anyone, if the us were tommorow to declare itself supreme ruler of the world there would be little anyone could do to stop it except for the only other "nuclear" superpowers russia and china

in a book Nicole a similar situation starts with the detonation of a 100 megaton nuclear bomb on the london airport i think, the 100 megaton bomb is the only unrealistic thing in the book the largest bomb ever built was Tsar Bomba in russian meaning "king of bombs"


tsar bomba explosion taken over 20 miles from test site

America doent want global control! that is (was) russia DUH! just b/c america is a stonger coutry than yours doent mean it wants global control! USA!

Malak

George Bush Sr. and Jr. both want global domination, not America. As a whole, i would say America is very peaceful, but the Bushs' are very trigger-happy

I see why you don't like me now, Malak.

This Global domination bit is all about centralisation, and we just have to look at countries like the USA and Russia to prove centralisation is bad.

Centralisation of power is never good, as every power becomes more bureaucratic, and more corrupt. This is proven by communism, but also by Capitalism, except we have legalised the corruptness.

Legalised the corruptness? You must be joking! I'm dead serious! Except they have called it lobbying. This allows corporations to force their will over the will of the people.

For example, factories near a city have to use filters, so people don't go ill. However these filters are very expensive. So when congres is about to accept the bill, the factories lobby and "bribe" the members of congres, and the bill is rejected... Handy huh?

In communistic countries this behaviour is called corruption, in Capitalistic coutries it's called democracy. In communism it's called pauverty, in Capitalistic countries it's called the American Dream.

Long live Capitalism, Long live the USA!

HU

the only reason why the Bush's are "trigger-happy" is because the US is paranoid. we are paranoid because we are powerful. any country would be "paranoid" if they though the smaller and less powerful countries like iraq had nukes! and you know who supplied them with nukes? the idiot former presidents! and they werent bush sr or jr.

You totally comforted me with the fact that all previous presidents were idiots, but the Bush family is totally okay.

However you got it wrong. You are powerful because you are powerful. You are desperate, at the edge of extinction. America is constantly throwing it's full weight into matters, and that will not be tolerated much longer.

Iraq was never the main concern of the US. If they were afraid of Nukes, they should attack China, and they should attack Nort-Vietnam. I have had enough of this rubbish. There were never Nukes in Iraq, since he sold them to Osama or some other Terrorist trained by your government.

Lay of the Middle-East, mr Bush. Shame on you!

HU

do you have an ally in the mid east? most mid east countries are scum, like iran and iraq, possible even saudi arabia. why dont you come and live in the US and see how wonderful it is? there are only a few former prezzies that were stupid, like whatsizface that ran after kennedy. he gave saddam the nukes and tear gas to use against the invading islam-insomniacs (forgot the names). so when he did, we thought nothing of it. now that saddam the ret@rd starting killing innocent iraqis, we bacame suspicious (after a few years) and decided to take it back. and HU, i dont like you because your smart alec comments are to much to take.

Scum?





I get it! You were joking. Now let's get back to the topic at hand. Okay?

HU

i dont think being racist/facist (i forget the word at time) is allowed. so dont do it Malak

yes i was kidding oneisgone. i was trying to make a point that the mideast people cannot be trusted. noone can be trusted. not the us, not england, nor any country. and just so you didnt know, scum (in my vocab) is another world for evil, unless you brits have abnother definition for THAT word too.

I finally understand what kind of people voted for Bush. Thank you for making that clear, Malak.

HU

okay Malak, but please use my full name, unless i state otherwise

Originally posted by Malak
yes i was kidding oneisgone. i was trying to make a point that the mideast people cannot be trusted.

This is one of the main problems right here.

The governments cause the problems, not the people and this causes mistrust between races and humanity in general.

Originally posted by Eon dreamhacker
This is one of the main problems right here.

The governments cause the problems, not the people and this causes mistrust between races and humanity in general.


Also, the US government uses many intermediaries with which they attemp to convince the minds of it's citizens into believing that our causes are irrevocably just. I'm not sure which is sadder; the tactics, or that they seem to be working.

yes! our goverment lied to us there just like they lied about the roswell aliens! uhhh... no.

i want to see you back that statement up

Are you telling me that the our government has NOT ONCE, NEVER, lied to us? Are you serious about this?

Let's go easy.. How about the incident with miss lowensky? Were there two truths? One that she did **** him, and one that she didn't?

Sheesh.. Must be hard being American, having to live with so many truths...

HU

Originally posted by DPD
Also, the US government uses many intermediaries with which they attemp to convince the minds of it's citizens into believing that our causes are irrevocably just. I'm not sure which is sadder; the tactics, or that they seem to be working.

Yeah and this seems to be a massive problem because when the governments control the media and the information flow is corrupted, only a small percentage of people like us here and conspiracy theorists, anarchists, people who listen to the certain types of music etc can be bothered to really look for it, it's the comforts of an easy life i guess.

Very few people are prepared to seek the truth once they've got a taste of what it's like, they usually turn away from it.

i didnt say they have never lied to us! everyones country has lied to them before. bill clinton was a frikken idiot. i myself am a republican and i dont like democrats. i think they have the wrong point of veiw. everytime we have a democrat for a prezzy the nation spirals out of control.

the goverment has always (most of the time) lied to its citizens because their resoning was that people would freak out, start rioting and the such, they dont think their citizens can handle the truth(s)

Whether they can handle it or not is beyond the point. Since we can never truly prove their motivations, however we can measure how often they told the truth, and that is a very disturbing figure.

Perhaps an explanation for the high homocide ratings?

HU

you mean murder, right? i believe this country i falling rather rapidly, as you can see, when they took prayer out of the schools in 1963, murder rates went up about 50 percent, as with premarital sex and suicide. so this country is just as bad as the UK i would think. you cant say anything better about the uk than you can about the us.

prayer out of the schools in 1963

That's it. I'm not going to reply anymore. There is a limit to my patience and capability to resist ignorance.

Homo Universalis

Originally posted by Malak
i didnt say they have never lied to us! everyones country has lied to them before. bill clinton was a frikken idiot. i myself am a republican and i dont like democrats. i think they have the wrong point of veiw. everytime we have a democrat for a prezzy the nation spirals out of control.

you cant say anything better about the uk than you can about the us.

and the country is doing so well now? whose control does it spiral out of?

do you mean only that you don't like democratic views or that you don't like democrats as people either? why is your point of view right, and everyone else's wrong? what makes only one of these party's views correct, and not the other's or a combination of the two?

i can actually say many things better about the UK than i can about the US. they have better tea than the US, and they have better fish and chips, too. they are also more passionate about soccer in the UK than they are in the US, and i think that's something this country lacks.

im talking about nation stability, i have heard some very bad things about the dude that controls the UK, i dont eat fish and chips together, i hate soccer, and no i odnt think the democrats are bad as people and i dont like them, im saying that everytime we have a democrat for a prezzy the nation doesnt do its best.

when does the nation do it's best, is it doing it's best right now? if you mean by manipulating the minds of it's citizens, and making them materialistic people and slaves to their possessions while they think that all of these things are actually needs, then yes, the nation is at it's best right now. by the dude that controls the UK, I'm thinking you mean Prime Minister Tony Blair. Well Blair is buddy-buddy with your boy Bush, Jr.

just because the things i mentioned that the UK does better than the US aren't important to you, doesn't mean that the UK isn't better than the US at them. by saying USA is the best nation in the world, you are inflating an ego that is already as bloated as they come.

i didnt say the us was the best. i personally like russia. if there flag was still the sickle and hammer that would be cool ;)

I personally like Trinidad & Tobago, and Luxembourg. But we much watch out for the tiny Pacific island-nation of Western Samoa, they are the ones who will end up conquering all mankind under the rule of HomoUniversalis/Beelzebub.e

Originally posted by DPD

i can actually say many things better about the UK than i can about the US. they have better tea than the US, and they have better fish and chips, too. they are also more passionate about soccer in the UK than they are in the US, and i think that's something this country lacks.

It might seem like it but your country was created by us europeans and so everything thats gone wrong in your country (what your government has done not the people Malak :D) has stemmed and originated from us the way i see it.

Also this country is sometimes so cold and lifeless its unreal. Manners, class system, it can all add up to total insanity and it often does.

(CCTV all over, the stupid expense of everything, no referendum on the European currency, backing Bush all the way, everyway, no national 24hr rock station, only five terrestrial tv channels, budgets where they highlight the big favour they've done on cutting something when they've stealth taxed us with ten other things that hardly even get mentioned, petrol prices through the roof, control of Scotland and Northern Ireland, intelligence agencies involved in problems surrounding the Diana conspiracy that are looking more and more suspicious : MI5, MI6, (who are reputed to be THE most secretive intelligence agency in the world bar none) it goes on and on, but with things like MI6 they are so secretive and probably so influential that they cover their tracks unbeleivably well and most people probably only think that there's an MI5 in this country, not an MI6 too. If i was a bigger conspiracy guy i'd be telling you that the simple fact that i've typed MI5 means that it's been recorded, logged and placed on their computers, some of them even go that far, i wouldn't be surprised.)

Like you said the media over there control things so you probably only see whats good about the place unless it suits them.

As for football, we are really passionate about it but it pales in comparison to the Italians. It's like a religion to them, if a team has a bad match the fans turn up at the training session in their hundreds throwing everything they have with them onto the pitch, it makes us look like we don't know what passion is sometimes. Try watching a Milan derby if you can, AC Milan and Inter Milan both use the same stadium and matches between the two are probably the biggest event of the year.

actually i didnt know there was a MI5 i only knew about the MI6 partly just reading stuff on the internet but all those James Bond/007 movies & games were based on MI6, and those five terrestrial tv stations there are more of them even though its cable but how many people that (are big tv watchers) dont have cable now "Sky one" (over 800 channels) is the name of it i had it for some time when i lived there, did nt realise scotland and northern ireland were still controled though