Enter the matrix ending is answer to realoaded questions

Daei

Anyone that sees the ending knows, that niobe and ghost had actualy used their emp .
Do you think It might've had an affect on the sentinels attacking neo and the group? think about it they were heading to zion.
If this was true it would prove the whole neo super power in zion-reality theory wrong.
Mr. Wizard

No offense, but your wrong there, The Logos wasent even in the same area as the Neb wen it got blown up and neo "used the force"
lobby_shootout

Enter the Matrix is just a side story, it isn't meant to be profound like the movie.
Daei

pLAying the game makes you understand the movie.
There's allot of film footage beeing shown in the game that does not get shown in the movie. It is a story Within the story as the wach brothers have said!
Daei

If you followed the game correctly you will understand that the ocurrances in the game are simultaneous to reloaded.
the meeting in the sewer.
the car chase.
helping the Nebudkadnezar.
and the ending!
Daei

here's a copy of what is said of the game on the thematrix oficial site:

Enter The Matrix is the story-within-the-story. It features awesome gunplay and spectacular martial arts that bend the rules of the Matrix, as well as insane driving and stunts, and the chance to pilot the fastest hovercraft in the fleet. This game isn’t just set in the Matrix universe – it’s an integral part of the entire Matrix experience, weaving in and out of the highly anticipated 2nd installment in the film trilogy, The Matrix Reloaded ™.

Enter The Matrix was developed under the creative direction of the Matrix filmmakers Larry and Andy Wachowski. The unprecedented level of collaboration between Hollywood’s hottest filmmakers and the award-winning Shiny Entertainment team promises to make Enter The Matrix a truly unique gaming experience.




The story-within-the-story -- without the game, you won’t see the entire Matrix Reloaded story
Neo is The One

Even if you were right, and Niobe's EMP is what shut down the Sentinels, then how do you explain Neo saying "Something is different, I can feel them now."? Also how do you explain Neo going into a coma right after the Sentinels fell? It couldn't be caused by the EMP, because no one else collapsed into a coma.
Daei

Neo is the only ONE.
He is part machine part human. That's why the emp affected him too!
The rest are all humans.
Neo has programming that had to be returned to the source, isn't that proof enough for you that he isn't 100% human??
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Reclaimer

But if that is the reason he went into the coma (that he is carring data that must return to the source) why didn't he drop during the two EMPs in M1?
hiredgun

besides neo isn't really a machine... at most there is some program in him while he's in the matrix, but that would be stored in his mind in the real world, and is not an electrical system that can be affected by emp's.
X739

There are a few problems in your idea. First the emp only has a limited range so the logos would have had to be neo and if you watch the movie sequence at the end of the game you will notice that they fly the logos into unmapped area were no one has been which means they could not be in emp range of neo and the other sentinels, and second as mentioned before neo says he can feel them but i would say the limited emp range would be the big down fall to your idea.
Terikan

not only that, but since no one even mentions an emp burst while they are talking near the end (when it shows neo and smith together) then it's doubtful that there was such a thing.
jthm667

Originally posted by Daei

Neo has programming that had to be returned to the source, isn't that proof enough for you that he isn't 100% human??
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Neo's "source code" is part of his Matrix coding. Everything is a code inside the matrix, no one is real, they are simply runnning programs, so Neo's code is a part of his body code INSIDE the Matrix, i don't agree with you that he is a machine. He would have collapsed in M1 if he were (like it has already been said). Neo is simply a carrier for the code, he isn't the code, he didn't make the code, he's just the "boot disk".
lewis1636

didn't neo say something in the first movie about i feel them or something while he was fighting someone i don't remember what he said though.
SirBob1701

Well if anyone's interested from a scientific side every persons brain opperates on computer code. Me the programmer will explain. All though processes are based on the same binary format that computers use except the 1 and 0 are replace with whatever the hell teh brain uses. I dont remember too much but im sure if you do research you'll find an article on an experiment relating to this that the human brain and computers have more incommen then you think. Pardon my horrendous spelling.
EliteZion44

I havn't played the game yet, but i'm planning to buy it. But can it really help you understand the movie? Or could the movie help you understand the game? Either way I still want the game.
_NosDrago_

in m1 neo is on the phone at the end and sez i can feel you know, he means the matrix itself, agents and such nothing outside the matrix, he goes into a coma because his mind gets seperated from his body, effectively trapping him in the matrix, the logos onboard emp isnt that powerful and it only took out 4000 sentinals which were chasing it, and i agree it couldnt have affected neo as the the range, where they were couldnt have affected him, neo is affectively a prisoner in the matrix, a god like one but still a prisoner. im not sure exacly how his mind gets seperated as the films is out on friday here, but i dont believe its anything to do with the logos.








agent victim'its you', agent smith 'yes me me me me me me me' new agent smith 'me too'
The Logos

most of the clips r frm the third movie not the second cuz iv seen it and all the clips at the end when u complete the game r from the third movie so wat the hell r u talkin about
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Niobe 16

If I can say something. Why would the Emp affect neo and no one else if that was what it was. I cant be. So it would have to had been Neo
C@ndyFl!p

Hahaha 'The Logos' You poor deluded little man 8)

NO offence, but what the hell are you talking about?

The cutscenes (that I remember) are ALL from Reloaded!

Hahahahah

Oh, and by the way, people might be impressed if you have really seen Revolution, but they won't be if you just jump up and say it..... personally I don't think anyone here will believe you. Wait, substitute think for KNOW! 8)

So congratulations on the "best, failed, attempt at making yourself look good" that I have ever seen! 8)
The Logos

I feel sorry for u, u think u know everything i have seen the film and some of the clips r from the second movie however a lot of others r not so i am afrade to say u r wrong-r u wrong orten
The Logos

where did u get the idea that i had seen revolution?
StrawberryMelon

Please please please please please please can someone fill me on what exactly is said or happens in ETM? I have none of the platforms (I have a Mac), and quite frankly, I probably wouldn't be able to beat the game anyway. I read the Niobe/Oracle transcript, where else can I find what happened, either on a site or post. Thanks
HomoUniversalis

I don't understand what this discussion is all about... The Oracle explains it all....
She says the one will be trapped between the Worlds. Meaning he is both in the Matrix and the "Real" World.
The only explanation is that he went into th matrix unplugged and stopped the Sentinels trough the Matrix.

PLUS: Niobe literally says they should wait untill they are all close... If the range would have been so big it could disable the sentinels near Neo why would she say that?

Plus.. If the range really was that big, why wouldn't some kind of Suicidesquad go up to the surface and detonate there... Disabling ALL of the Sentinels?
The 7th Neo

Originally posted by The Logos
most of the clips r frm the third movie not the second cuz iv seen it and all the clips at the end when u complete the game r from the third movie so wat the hell r u talkin about

Originally posted by C@ndyFl!p
Hahaha 'The Logos' You poor deluded little man 8)

NO offence, but what the hell are you talking about?

The cutscenes (that I remember) are ALL from Reloaded!

Hahahahah

Oh, and by the way, people might be impressed if you have really seen Revolution, but they won't be if you just jump up and say it..... personally I don't think anyone here will believe you. Wait, substitute think for KNOW! 8)

So congratulations on the "best, failed, attempt at making yourself look good" that I have ever seen! 8)

Ok, 1st off ur a jack ass C@ndyFl!p everyone can say wat they think, and just bcuz u dont beleive as them, you dont have to critize, havnt you learned anything from Morpheus? (lol) Next not only are you a jackass but u dont read! He said everything from the END OF THE GAME! So, you really should watch wat u say.
I hope this pisses you off, bcuz u rnt looking good ow r u? :cool:
frost

oh fuc|<in christ people, settle down. nothing to get so riled up over.

anyways, the oracle states since neo has touched the source, he is stuck between your world and ours. trinity will have to 'fight thru hell' to save him. (she fights her way thru Club Hell in the third movie) she also states Merovingian destroyed her old shell, so she was forced to take a new shell. my guess shes refering to her 'old shell's speech about how sometimes programs get upgraded. she could very well be an upgrade. she also states she only knows what happens from the beggining of the path to the end. now, since neo went to the source, his path must be through, supposedly, therfore, she cannot tell the future anymore. that was my theory, but then i realized she knew about club hell, etc, so Neo must stuill be walking his path. but something will definitly happen, and she is saying she cannot say what wil happen after the end. Because neo chose the left door, the human race will be destroyed, unless everyone plays their part. she also said stuff about she trusted two programs that gave Mero her deletion sequence. She didnt care, because their 'son' was more important. and she believes someday this son will play a big part in everyones life. Now this throws me on a whole new loop, and now i realize none of us know what we are talking about here, and we only will know the truth when we see Revolutions.
The Logos

Thanks that put him in his place.
UnbrokenMirror

Originally posted by frost
she also said stuff about she trusted two programs that gave Mero her deletion sequence. She didnt care, because their 'son' was more important. and she believes someday this son will play a big part in everyones life. Now this throws me on a whole new loop, and now i realize none of us know what we are talking about here, and we only will know the truth when we see Revolutions.

i had you up to here, then i became totally, hopelessly lost. son? deletion sequence? huh?
Thadeus

Originally posted by UnbrokenMirror
i had you up to here, then i became totally, hopelessly lost. son? deletion sequence? huh?



OK check this out let me shed some light on this (i am glad somebody asked)......what the Oracle said, relates to what Merovingian said.....(He told Neo to give the fortune teller this message: Her time is almost up).......Now in the Game the Oracle tells Niobe that she did trust 2 programs, & they gave her deletion code/sequence to Merovingian, that is why she looks different (for movie purposes).....But she said that their Son was more important.....and he has a role to play in the resisitance,

Now the question that lies ahead of us is who is this son.....Could it have been Neo (no i doubt it ) it just does not add up......I have a gut feeling that th son is THE KID that is inside of ZION.....(but Programs conceiving children)
chaser

maby the real world is a matrix with ather matrix.
UnbrokenMirror

when i made that post i hadnt played through ghosts game yet (which is where that convo comes up) but holy s***, people who dont play the game are getting cheated out of some great story/plot moments!
C@ndyFl!p

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Originally posted by The Logos
most of the clips r frm the third movie not the second cuz iv seen it and all the clips at the end when u complete the game r from the third movie so wat the hell r u talkin about
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Erm... 7th Neo... note this "most of the clips r frm the third movie not the second cuz iv seen it "

So what exactly is your point? That he didn't say that he had seen the 3rd movie? Hahaha I think (If you start to read) that thats exactly what he said 8) So no, don't really feel like a fool 8) Hope you don't either 8)
Hahaha


Oh, and Logos.....

When you asked me this.... "where did u get the idea that i had seen revolution?"

Check your previous post.... the one that says...."most of the clips r frm the third movie not the second cuz iv seen it " I got the idea that you said you had seen the third movie... when you said it 8)

So well done guy's... I really am put in my place...

Hahahahahhahah
C@ndyFl!p

Oh, and by the way Logos... I don't think I know everything, but I am atleast sure I know how to spell 8)
C@ndyFl!p

Sorry, this is getting petty now.

Shouldn't have mocked you Logos, so I apologize.
The 7th Neo

Originally posted by The Logos
Thanks that put him in his place.
No problemo lil man ;)
Chain

man that new oracle in the video game sucks.
ImmortalMatrix

i think that the third one is going to be amazing and i don't think that it was niobe's emp
The 7th Neo

Well, if you watch the Revolutions trailer the reason Neo could stop the Seintinels is bcuz hes "between the worlds" as the new oracle says (and yeah she sux). Therefore he could stop them only because he has his Matrix powers in the real world. So up yours MWIAM theory!

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