anyone else ever felt liek "hey ive seen this exactly before"

i think its called deja vu. happens to me all the tiem when soemtihng will happen and it feels like its already happened in a previous lfie and im reliving my lfie or sumthin. what do you think causes this?

it jsut feels like ive experienced this day before. its so weird. i think its soemthing with ur brain that makes you think uve seen this before...???

temporary chemical imbalances triggering neurons to set off the wrong memory engrams.

haha i just pulled an architect.

Originally posted by Crusader
pulled an architect.

lol thats such a nifty term

watch it catch on :) we just started something.

Originally posted by BiggStankDogg
Yeah, but "that's such a nifty term" isn't such a nifty term. Are you from Pleasantville? :p

bah i wasnt serious! i dont really say things like 'neato' or 'keen', its just that 'nifty' seemd so fitting. it was just so nifty and useful

The only place I've seen someone try to explain Deja Vu was in a book called The Celestine Prophecy, they said that it was when you are following your life path. They further explained that before you are born you chose your body and your life and you see the systemic events (like a tree branching out) of your life as they could unfold, so when you are on the right track and doing what you had planned, you remember what you had seen when you were still a soul waiting to be born. When terrible things happen in your life and you feel you've had a very bad life, you still saw those things coming and thought you could handle it.

Anyway, it's an interesting read. Not something to get religious about, just one of those new age books.

holy crap! i thot of that idea too. liek when you die your soul can choose what life it wants to be, in a differnet galaxy, in a different form, in a differealm, past things ur human mind could imagine. then when u are born all ur previous memories are gone and maybe u remember some parts if u choose to relvie ur life. this is interesting, ill try to pick up that book

If you do read it, you'll also have to get The Tenth Insight. There are nine insights in the first book and the tenth is all about the afterlife. It is a very interesting book, it's very much worth your time. It really doesn't actually conflict with any religion, so you won't have to change your beliefs.

yes i have. like one time i had a dream. i then told my mate and it happened!

I strongly believe that Dreams mean something. It has happened to me a lot.

And divination. I had really bad marks at at school. It was nearly impossible to get to the next class.All hope was gone. And I used runes andthey told me I would go to the next class. And gues what? I went to the next class

Deja-vu is very confusing, makes me wonder what is real.....

Yea i have deja-vu all the time...and i know for a fact i dream the event a couple weeks before it actually happened....

One interesting thing happened to me one time...i was at hockey practice, and took this massive hit up under my jaw spun me around and i landed on my head. Was out for like 5 secs or so...anyway when i got back up for the next 10 min i had deja-vu

I knew where to go and even knew who was gonna score and all that craziness....that was definately the weirdest thing that ever happened to me...

Originally posted by Crusader
temporary chemical imbalances triggering neurons to set off the wrong memory engrams.

haha i just pulled an architect.

Im a scientific believer and all but i highly doubt thats what it is, considering there have been times when i would just all of the sudden feel awake when something happened or was siad (seriously felt liek that) and i would know EXACTLY , i mean EXACTLY what was going to happen next and then it would happen. its like i for a second could change what was going to happen.

Originally posted by joetrix
i think its called deja vu. happens to me all the tiem when soemtihng will happen and it feels like its already happened in a previous lfie and im reliving my lfie or sumthin. what do you think causes this?

it jsut feels like ive experienced this day before. its so weird. i think its soemthing with ur brain that makes you think uve seen this before...???

Judging from the spelling mistakes you must have been in a real hurry to post here :). Can I ask to please take your time when you create a thread? It makes it so much more pleasant for other members to be able to read a well worded (or at least correctly spelled) post.

Actually Crahan, research has concluded that as long as the first letter and the second are in place, the rest can be scrambeled. so you'll immediately see that this word is, or something like that.

Anyway. The "architect" thing is only one way of explaining it. It is also posible that you really have been there before, or to some place similar, and that it's just coincidental.

And for dreams? I am very non-religious, I am more of a logical typre, and do not believe in destiny. For if it turned out to be so, I shall change it or kill myself. I refuse to live under any control, whether it is someone else or me controlling myself. So I don't believe in the whole destiny thing. I'll leave believing that to jehova witnesses.

wait wait

you're making no sense. If you dont believe in destiny, you must believe that you're in complete control of your life.
There's no third either you control certin aspects of your life or somebody (or if you believe) something controls you.

But no one can be in complete control of their life. If i pulled a gun to your head and told you i was going to shoot you, and did, you had nothing to control. I would have been in control, complete control of your life. You can't say that nothing or nobody controls you because there are certin things nobody can control.

I've actually read somewhere that Deja Vu is a result of one of your eyes recieving and transmitting information to your brain milliseconds before the other one so it seems that you have the same information hitting the brain milliseconds apart. This causes your brain to remember the images that were already recieved all beit very short times before... this can explain some deja vu but I have also experienced dreams that come true months or years later or even experiencing, some would call hallucinations, events that I have seen in my minds eye before.

u subconsciously control the actions that lead you up to that point of being shot in the head i guess

and im totally feelnig u guys on the dreams to reality. i dont think its the milliseconds thing. i think it was months in advance or maybe my mind is tellnig me this. hey got any idea for anyone whos not so lazy and has time. why dont we record our dreams and the next tiem we feel deja vu we look back at our writings. this will help prove deja vu isnt jsuta millisecodn thing

please could you explain to me how you subconsciously control the actions that lead you up to that point of being shot in the head?

if i was to for no apparent reason enter your house and commit murder.

:) not implying that i would ofcourse

i have however like most people experienced deja vu, but i really dont think it has anything to do with extrasensory perception you may posses. It is strange though, that you have this feeling of being there or doing something before, the exact same way.

i hav no control of you shooting me at the ponit u enter my house

but perhaps there was a party that i got invited to go to, as unfair/fair as it is, if i decided to go to the party, i wouldnt be at home at the time you decided to go in my hosue and kill me. liek cause and effect. everything leads up to the point we are now, whether we fully udnerstand the consequences of our small actions

i guess, that makes sence.

True, everthing leads up to the point that is now, but most of it is indirect, and some of it has to do with other people's decisions too.

this is an interesting thread. I've experienced Deja Vu several times, and none of them have been seconds apart. They have all been several days or even weeks apart, but all happened in the same way. First my mind would sort of draw back from what was happening and I would observe seemingly benign, but intricate details, like for instance the number of ducks on my camp's lawn, and what each on was doing, and then a few days later I would experience the exact same thing, and about halfway through I would think, DEJA VU!!

Anyways, I can't explain why it happens, but it does.

I have also heard about the eye-milliseconds thing, and I think I believe that as far as deju vu goes. Millions or billions of events happen in your daily life. Small things, large things, many many different things happen, for one event to unfold exactly the same as another event at a later date doesn't seem too extreme to me. The only times I've experienced deju vu was during small things, like conversations with someone, simply looking around and picking something up, or reading something while doing something else. I don't think anyone has ever had a gun to their head and said "OH **** DEJU VU" because it rarely (if ever) happens to you. Then again, there's the eye-milliseconds thing which does make sense and I bet that happens sometimes but I believe more in generalized events.

Whenever I've had deju vu, it's always been a vague memory. Never anything extremely sharp. If you were looking at someone and they danced a certain way, and then danced the exact same way 5 seconds later, you wouldn't call that deju vu, even though that's what you're implying deju vu is. Maybe it has something to do with your brain and memory cells not fully working together, like maybe something is lost in the memory so it seems vague, you can't quite remember when it happened, so you get the "deju vu" feeling.

As far as dreams go, I don't think I've ever had a dream, or atleast not one I can remember so I don't know what it's like to have one come to reality.

Just my opinion.

do you mean that you can't remember any of your dreams?

...how sad.

I'd hate not to be able to remember my dreams, which I can generally recall very well.

Studies have shown that everyone dreams right? If that's true, then I can't remember ever dreaming, to the point where I wouldn't believe that I dream at all, but apparently I do, if everyone does.

I do have Deja Vus frequently, it feels really strange.

Valasher: I've read The Celestine Prophecy but I didn't get much out of it because that was back in high school and I was only trying to write about it, so I wasn't too attentive...maybe I should re-read, but it seemed a little too New Age for me. I dunno.

I don't often remember my dreams either, I usually have too much stuff going on once I wake up.

yea alot of it has to do with situation and other ppl.

say u (yes this will be a depressor too ppl) are strapped in a chair since birth or since before u had any competance to make a decision.

Say you never gain any competance to think or do anything such as talk to ppl and change their minds or do anything that would influence you. one day a machine comes in, on the day its suppsoed to, and jsut kills you. now u cant really decide whether you live or die in extreme situationslike. u can however change the way you take getting killed (Change of mindset to happy or to sad or to angry) but then again, if u didnt have the competance to influence anything (suych as to stop the machine from killing you) then i guess u werent really living and to you (in which the perspective is, and in which the facts are true to), you arent really dieing becoz u have no sense of it, u have no life to begin with really

We seems to have very little influence against the odds, but we can change the way soem things happen, you have the choice to make the best or worst outta what you do whether you know it or not. its about living, living to me is to have influence on soemthing anything urself, so if u are alive u can influence if u die, how u die. but if u have no influence on anything not even urself, u are not truelly living, and whiel the heart may beat, you have no 'life'

ok...btw i hav decided to write down soem of my dreams starting now as a project. i will see it in my notes if something i dreamed two months before really does happen

peace :o)

There is nothing that can not be controlled, should you walk into my house and point a gun at my head, I would probably just whoop your ass.

However this does not mean you control me!

You can tell me to get down on my knees, but I am the one who decides to get on my knees... Not you. You shooting me if I don't has nothing to do with control, only with consequences.

exactee-mondo

exactee-what? I don't think I quite follow you.

Exactamundo = exactly (very much exact)

while you are focussed on controll in my opinion on what the french man said about control is a bunch of ****! reasons if you are poor and a rich man comes to kill you and has you in his hands then the rich man is in controll. then if the poor man kicks his ***! then the poor man is in controll. meaning thoughs with power dont always have controll.power=rich man and non power=poor man.

deja vu doesnt exist. It is all in your mind. If you didnt know the word deja vu and what the word implies occurs you would never experience it. Try asking a child using simplier terms if that ever happened to them and they would give you a very very very strange look....they would think you were crazy

Well, deja vu does exist. But what causes it and what it actually is are both up for debate.

i see deja vu all the time the wirdest thing is when i was in 1st greade it always was drifferent after school , once i saw the same show line up but it was sopsoed to be drifferent




weird huh

Nice try. But you didn't get it the basics of these new ideas. Lets try again. Now how did we do it in Princeton again?

www.geocities.com/drwhorl/MAYBEsingle1.html

The idea isn't that one left brain represents God but all of them, within the whole of Mankind.

Does any one brain cell of yours add up to you? No, you're much bigger and much more complex than any individual brain cell of yours. So is God much more complex than any one of his Left brains within him.

But instead of using brain chemicals to transmitt information from one brain cell to another, as it is done in our brains, whole brains in God and Satan use Space to do it.

Space isn't empty room but something else. It is a physical manifestation of an abstraction. The essence of a relationship.
So brains weave their information into the tapestry of Space which is pure information. The border between the physical and metaphysical. Brain and soul. The medium for all ESP ability. And the way, natural laws are transmitted from particle to particle so that all stuff obey the same natural laws in the universe. Space is also the place a soul can hang after leaving its body. The first step with Near Death Experiences is being outside your body and able to move around and go throught walls. That sounds weird, unless you start seeing Space as information, the same as your soul and all perception.

Notice how Neo flew off into outer space in the end of the first movie? It meant something.

The idea is that God is a composite mind of all the Left brains within Mankind. What does the Left brain do best? It processes language. What does the Right brain do best? It processes Spatial Intelligence.

God = Composite mind of all the Left Brains in Mankind. Best at language skills. Likes to rule by laws, WORDS. Favors people who are good at language, uses them from the inside to effect his desired influences in mankind. So Jews, lawyer producers, were naturally picked to write the Bible. Likes books. Chosen people? Not really, just closer in some ways.

Jesus = Neo[Matrix] = Captian Sheridon[Baylon5] = Leon[Final Conflict] = EPOCH[2nd movie- Son] = human picked to represent God to Mankind.

Satan = Composite mind of all the Right Brains in Mankind. Spatial, aritistic, not unlike Hitler the predicted Second anti-Christ and killer of Jews. Hater of Jews, kill them says Satan. Hitler says, hey, Final Soultion. Books? Burn them. This is the Machine God.
Very strong right brain users such as Germans and Japanese with have problems with not liking Jews naturally. The artistic French? O yeah, put them in too. Come to think about it, no matter where Jews went inside the land of strong right brains in Europe, they were never liked. Wonder why?

If you go against God's decisions within you? You sin. Sin was born only in Man.

Jesus = Son of God = Son of Man


Every person born alive is caught in their war. something felt inside all of us just below the surface. This is the Matrix.

i was watching star trek TNG one time and there was this episode where the ship was in the temperal vortex (or some trekkie term like that) so this period of time kept repeating over and over again. everyone subconsiously had experienced the same things already but they didnt know it consiously. for example, when they were playing poker, everyone knew exactly which cards would be dealt but they didnt remember specifically playing that game before. when the captain was reading, he remember reading that chapter, but he couldnt place when. these are all the symptoms of a deja vu, so maybe theres little temperal vortexes all around the world and once in a while we come in contact with them and repeat the period of our lives two, maybe more times until we leave the vortex. kind of a farfectched theory, but it really makes you wonder. btw, has anyone seen the episode i'm talking about?

ive actually seen that episode and if im remembering right they experience that day three times, the second time it is simply deja vu, and the third time they know for sure they have already dont the same things, im not sure but i think it was data that was immune or something

you could relate this to einsteins block time theory that everything is happening at once but we remember the past but we dont remember the future, deja vu could simply be your brain remebering some small portion of the futute

Originally posted by kissme
Nice try. But you didn't get it the basics of these new ideas. Lets try again. Now how did we do it in Princeton again?

www.geocities.com/drwhorl/MAYBEsingle1.html

The idea isn't that one left brain represents God but all of them, within the whole of Mankind.

Does any one brain cell of yours add up to you? No, you're much bigger and much more complex than any individual brain cell of yours. So is God much more complex than any one of his Left brains within him.

But instead of using brain chemicals to transmitt information from one brain cell to another, as it is done in our brains, whole brains in God and Satan use Space to do it.

Space isn't empty room but something else. It is a physical manifestation of an abstraction. The essence of a relationship.
So brains weave their information into the tapestry of Space which is pure information. The border between the physical and metaphysical. Brain and soul. The medium for all ESP ability. And the way, natural laws are transmitted from particle to particle so that all stuff obey the same natural laws in the universe. Space is also the place a soul can hang after leaving its body. The first step with Near Death Experiences is being outside your body and able to move around and go throught walls. That sounds weird, unless you start seeing Space as information, the same as your soul and all perception.

Notice how Neo flew off into outer space in the end of the first movie? It meant something.

The idea is that God is a composite mind of all the Left brains within Mankind. What does the Left brain do best? It processes language. What does the Right brain do best? It processes Spatial Intelligence.

God = Composite mind of all the Left Brains in Mankind. Best at language skills. Likes to rule by laws, WORDS. Favors people who are good at language, uses them from the inside to effect his desired influences in mankind. So Jews, lawyer producers, were naturally picked to write the Bible. Likes books. Chosen people? Not really, just closer in some ways.

Jesus = Neo[Matrix] = Captian Sheridon[Baylon5] = Leon[Final Conflict] = EPOCH[2nd movie- Son] = human picked to represent God to Mankind.

Satan = Composite mind of all the Right Brains in Mankind. Spatial, aritistic, not unlike Hitler the predicted Second anti-Christ and killer of Jews. Hater of Jews, kill them says Satan. Hitler says, hey, Final Soultion. Books? Burn them. This is the Machine God.
Very strong right brain users such as Germans and Japanese with have problems with not liking Jews naturally. The artistic French? O yeah, put them in too. Come to think about it, no matter where Jews went inside the land of strong right brains in Europe, they were never liked. Wonder why?

If you go against God's decisions within you? You sin. Sin was born only in Man.

Jesus = Son of God = Son of Man


Every person born alive is caught in their war. something felt inside all of us just below the surface. This is the Matrix.


I suggest you maybe try reading some of what the Kabbalah is, or at least looking at what it represents, i have to say i disagree with your ideas, but hey, you could be right.

In the Kabbalistic teachings the left side of the brain is male, and corresponds with wisdom, the right side is female and corresponds with understanding. Both are equally essential when you see it like this.

Yes the right side is artistic, and the left side is logical, but problems only arise when one side is favoured over the other.

The way i see the problem is that the left, logical side is the matrix and we are trapped in over analyzing everything and turning mechanical and what we need is to accept the right/female/goddess/creative side more, in order to 'free' ourselves from our own matrixes that we have collectively built up in our minds.

I'm not suggesting that you spend years doing Kabbalistic rituals, but maybe if you just tried reading a little it would help with the way you view this.

I personally believe deja vu is the next step in human evolution.
just hold with me for a sec and I will try...to explain.

Everything is relative correct?
Time is supposed to be the fourth dimension that humans can experience but cannot control. We observe it but we cannot point to a location and say "time is there." Perhaps as a byproduct of our capacity to experience time, we can look ahead, or back in time under certain conditions. I don't know about everyone else, but i'm pretty sure most of things that people see and later "resee" as deja vu take place during dreams. If anyone here knows about brain waves they could explain but i believe that humans can supercede the limits of our own plane of existance while asleep. ESP is a real thing, there is no point arguing against it. (And even if you are religious, you cannot deny it and they don't conflict anyways.) I think we do see the future sometimes.

I don't know if anyone else thinks this, but I think humans are tapping the next level of our evolution through ESP. Deja vu is just the beginning of what may come.

i have thought about this for a while, and think that, because one eye sees something before the other, we take is a de ja vu

i actually have heard of a completely different theory that corresponds to deja vu

your parents pass traits done to you while you are still nothing, and deja vu is memories that your parents have passed dwon to you. When you get deja vu you are experiencing something that they also experienced in your child hooh

i ahve also heard that is why dreams reflect dja vu, becuase your parents memories are inside of you, you dream them, they happen to you

^WOW:o...Never heard that one before Neo's but it sounds true to me. Where did you hear this info of Deja Vu past down to you theory?

Aye, I've heard of that theory on deja vu too. I don't subscribe to it though, sounds like rubbish to me.

my english class had about 3 days worth of discussion on deja vu and theories and we had to research, i'm not exactly sure where i found it tho

The class agreed with what i found also