I think i found a big plot hole in architect speech!!!

The architect says that 99% accept the matrix, and 1% didn't (Zion people). There are 250,000,000 people in Zion (1%). 99% are
24,750,000,000 people. The matrix is programmed to make the people think that the year is 1999 or something like this. In 1999 (and now too) there were something like 6,500,000,000 people.
24,750,000,000 is alot bigger then 6,500,000,000.

Am i right?


Yes! I am right!!!

Yeah, good point there Bambadude. I think the population of the world is actually closer to 4 billion but never mind.
For a long time already I have this feeling that the arc's speech was bogus, that it was meant to manipulate Neo somehow - just like the oracle did, only this time the intentions would be less hinourable.
I'm not sure what the architect would be trying to achieve by lying to Neo though, and I'm not gonna try and come up with something. It would suck if I was right and M3 didn't surprise me.
Anyway, very good point. We now have two facts to suggest the arc lied. He said to Neo that he won't be able to rescue Trinity and he lied to him about the way percentages of acceptance for the Matrix.
Oh, and I just realised something. I don't know what the arc would achieve by this but I think he was pushing Neo towards believing Zion is MIAM (that sentinel bit at the end was meant to fool us I suppose...).

1999 = 6,001,998,609 source = US Census (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html)

Now, there have been 5 previous versions of the Matrix before
the one we know. The first one failed miserably. "Entire crops
were lost."

The next 5 Matrices were then based on human history. With the
Logo's manufacture date at 2079 (last recorded date), and 5
previous Matrices, the real date would be somewhere around
2859, providing 130 years or so per Matrix.

I don't think the Census projects that far but 24.75 billion in the
29th century seems a bit low. Nevertheless, the fetus fields are
packed with incubii. I don't think it's a stretch that there is such a
huge population during the 6th Matrix version.

Er...let me remind you that in a computer generated simulation that doesn't even have Coca-Cola anywhere, the number in the population isn't what it seems? Besides I don't think the Arc was being that literal...

Originally posted by EtaPhase
1999 = 6,001,998,609 source = US Census (http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html)

Now, there have been 5 previous versions of the Matrix before
the one we know. The first one failed miserably. "Entire crops
were lost."

The next 5 Matrices were then based on human history. With the
Logo's manufacture date at 2079 (last recorded date), and 5
previous Matrices, the real date would be somewhere around
2859, providing 130 years or so per Matrix.

I don't think the Census projects that far but 24.75 billion in the
29th century seems a bit low. Nevertheless, the fetus fields are
packed with incubii. I don't think it's a stretch that there is such a
huge population during the 6th Matrix version.
Yeah, but you missed the point. If there are 24 billion people plugged into the Matrix, they would all be living inside the Matrix and we know the Matrix only contains 6 billion people (since it is exactly the same as the world in the real world on 1999).

well... maybe not everybody in zion would actually reject the matrix.... I guess some people took some family with them.. or some close ones.. and another point... not everybody in zion is born in the matrix!!! there are very much pure 100% human beings... (do not know where they came from... from the 24 people that are choosen or something?)

Originally posted by freeyourmind
Yeah, but you missed the point. If there are 24 billion people plugged into the Matrix, they would all be living inside the Matrix and we know the Matrix only contains 6 billion people (since it is exactly the same as the world in the real world on 1999).

You right, but i find a mistake in my theory:
If there are 6,000,000,000 people in the matrix, and before it being reloaded there are something like 6,250,000,000. After the matrix being reloaded, there are 6,000,000,000 people again. What the machines do with the other 250,000,000 people?


But maybe i wrong and before the matrix is being reloaded there are 6,000,000,000 people, because the rebels are freeing alot people from the matrix.

Originally posted by freeyourmind
Yeah, but you missed the point. If there are 24 billion people plugged into the Matrix, they would all be living inside the Matrix and we know the Matrix only contains 6 billion people (since it is exactly the same as the world in the real world on 1999).
You have to understand that everything that people know about
the world in the Matrix is only what the system feeds into their
heads. The Matrix says you can't leap tall buildings and you
agree, until you learn otherwise from an outside source. You can't
believe any of the information that is derived from the Matrix program :)

Originally posted by EtaPhase
You have to understand that everything that people know about
the world in the Matrix is only what the system feeds into their
heads. The Matrix says you can't leap tall buildings and you
agree, until you learn otherwise from an outside source. You can't
believe any of the information that is derived from the Matrix program :)
So what are you saying happened to the extra 18 billion people?
I don't really get what you're saying.

Woman 2: That'd mean there are a quarter of a million sentinels up there.
Niobe: That's right.
Man 3: That can't be.
Morpheus: Why not? A sentinel for every man, woman, and child in Zion. That sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me.

The number is 250 THOUSAND, not MILLION, which is 1% of 25,000,000.

Some of these people are born in Zion, which should drive the 25 million people figure even lower.

However, this is all based on the understanding that 1% = the people that reject the matrix. I am not sure that this understanding is correct.

Alright, we already know that Neo is going to find out that the Arc. was bluffing. And we know that He'll lead the people in a revolution and they'll defeat the machines. If that didn't happen, then it would just be depressing, and movie studios don't make money off of depressing movies. I mean, granted horror movies are depressing, but movies with empowering characters like Neo, movies about the end of mankind just aren't made to have depressing endings. Bittersweet maybe, depressing no.

Originally posted by Madhijs
well... maybe not everybody in zion would actually reject the matrix.... I guess some people took some family with them.. or some close ones.. and another point... not everybody in zion is born in the matrix!!! there are very much pure 100% human beings... (do not know where they came from... from the 24 people that are choosen or something?)
The humans that were born in the matrix were concieved by the older generation. Therefore this Matrix must be at least two generations old.
As for your suggested solution, yes, that could make sense, but I don't think it's too likely. If what you say is true 1% of the population, (6 billion divided by 100 = ) 60 thousand people, are ones that rejected the Matrix and the other 190 thousand inhabitants of Zion are people that were born and bred there. This is really a matter of opinion but I find it hard to believe this what the Wachoskis would have intended.

1% of 60 billion is 6 hundred million (600,000,000), NOT 60 thousand

Originally posted by Bamba-MAN
The architect says that 99% accept the matrix, and 1% didn't (Zion people). There are 250,000,000 people in Zion (1%). 99% are
24,750,000,000 people. The matrix is programmed to make the people think that the year is 1999 or something like this. In 1999 (and now too) there were something like 6,500,000,000 people.
24,750,000,000 is alot bigger then 6,500,000,000.

Am i right?


Yes! I am right!!!

Bamba-Man the amount of people in Zion is 250,000 not 250,000,000. So if what the architect said was true then there would be 25,000,000 people in the real. 25M people was not the world population of 1999. 25M was the population around 2000 B.C. So what happened with the other 5,975,000,000 people? The matrix truely can make us believe whatever it wants us to believe. Or maybe we would just get bored hearing 99.99999%. I'll stick with Digital intelligence making us believe whatever they want analogue to believe, but that's just me.

Originally posted by Bamba-MAN
You right, but i find a mistake in my theory:
If there are 6,000,000,000 people in the matrix, and before it being reloaded there are something like 6,250,000,000. After the matrix being reloaded, there are 6,000,000,000 people again. What the machines do with the other 250,000,000 people?


But maybe i wrong and before the matrix is being reloaded there are 6,000,000,000 people, because the rebels are freeing alot people from the matrix.
I believe this is more a problem with the arc's take on things than with yours. What he said was that when Zion and the Matrix were destroyed 24 men and women will be chosed to survive and repopulate Zion, but then how would the machines populate their beloved Matrix?
I said it before and I'll say it again. The architect is chock full of excrement. :D

The population that ends up in the matrix is the number of people that survive the war, the change in the climate and environment, etc. It is probably significantly lower than 6 billion to begin with.

Originally posted by yanka
Woman 2: That'd mean there are a quarter of a million sentinels up there.
Niobe: That's right.
Man 3: That can't be.
Morpheus: Why not? A sentinel for every man, woman, and child in Zion. That sounds exactly like the thinking of a machine to me.

The number is 250 THOUSAND, not MILLION, which is 1% of 25,000,000.

Some of these people are born in Zion, which should drive the 25 million people figure even lower.

However, this is all based on the understanding that 1% = the people that reject the matrix. I am not sure that this understanding is correct.
Crap, you're right. There go all my beautiful theories and 4 useless points.
This leads us to another problem though. If there are less than 25 million people in the Matrix does that mean that most of the population of the world are programs, or just that we are reading too far into it? Have we found a glitch in the matrix???

Originally posted by yanka
1% of 60 billion is 6 hundred million (600,000,000), NOT 60 thousand
Yeah, sorry, I was getting a tiny bit overexcited. I don't usually make these kinds of mistakes... :D

Originally posted by freeyourmind
Crap, you're right. There go all my beautiful theories and 4 useless points.
This leads us to another problem though. If there are less than 25 million people in the Matrix does that mean that most of the population of the world are programs, or just that we are reading too far into it? Have we found a glitch in the matrix???

I think that that means that we are misunderstanding what the Architect meant by "1%". I have been thinking about this since the 1st time I saw M2. Does 1% mean "the percentage of PEOPLE that reject the matrix"?

Originally posted by yanka
I think that that means that we are misunderstanding what the Architect meant by "1%". I have been thinking about this since the 1st time I saw M2. Does 1% mean "the percentage of PEOPLE that reject the matrix"?
I think the architect is bulls**tting us. That would explain a lot. ;)

Originally posted by freeyourmind
I think the architect is bulls**tting us. That would explain a lot. ;)

Lol... but no, it still wouldn't explain much

Originally posted by freeyourmind
So what are you saying happened to the extra 18 billion people?
I don't really get what you're saying.
Bamba-MAN made the assertion that the population according to
the Matrix program is 6 billion, based on real-life 1999 Census
figures. I don't believe the Matrix program simulates 1999 census
numbers for world population at all - at least I don't remember
any reference to it in the movies.

The ZION number 250,000 is 1% of 25,000,000.

But we have to subtract Zion-born from the 250,000 to get the
plugged-in human chrystali number.

Let's say for argument's sake only 10% of the inhabitants of
ZION are born there. That leaves 225,000 who were unplugged,
which means the crop number (99%) is only 22,275,000. As you
add to the number of zion-born, the chrystali number decreases.

Yes it is possible the actual population is only < 25,000,000 but I
find it hard to believe.

I'm starting to think the 1% are individual Ones, and we're only
seeing Neo's evolution. It fits with the philosophy - one's reality is
his own. See my "Ahh, This Could Be Historical Evidence of MIAM" (http://www.matrixreloaded.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5890)
thread for more.

Lol, I just had this revelation...

EtaPhase is absolutely right: the "machines" can feed the people that are plugged into the matrix any bs history they want. They could stretch it or compress it any way they want; AI could have been developed in the real 999 (in which case history in the matrix would be stretched out) or in the real 2199 (and then history would have been compressed). As a matter of fact, none of the history has to be correct at all - it could all be bs - from the earliest paintings in the caves to the "present day" - all of that could have just "taken place" in the matrix, not in the "real world".

Actually, right now - in 2003 - we are centuries, not decades away from creating AI. I think most people in the AI forum would agree on the minimum of 200-300 years (although this "agreement" does not really mean anything). So let's say AI would have been created in 2299, the first matrix is created 10 years after that - 2309. But each matrix reboots with year 1959 or so, and ends with year 2000-2001.

Omg, my brain hurts now... Where is this old thread where people were trying to figure out what year it is "now"?

Originally posted by yanka
Lol, I just had this revelation...

EtaPhase is absolutely right: the "machines" can feed the people that are plugged into the matrix any bs history they want. They could stretch it or compress it any way they want; AI could have been developed in the real 999 (in which case history in the matrix would be stretched out) or in the real 2199 (and then history would have been compressed). As a matter of fact, none of the history has to be correct at all - it could all be bs - from the earliest paintings in the caves to the "present day" - all of that could have just "taken place" in the matrix, not in the "real world".

I'm telling you, it is the brainscrew to end all brainscrews. I'm
glad you're seeing the Matrix for what it is. Time as we know it is
lost when it comes to the Matrix. Everything we know is what the
Matrix has told us.

All humans plugged in could be seeing a different portion of
histroy, whatever their mind accepts...

Originally posted by EtaPhase
I'm telling you, it is the brainscrew to end all brainscrews. I'm
glad you're seeing the Matrix for what it is. Time as we know it is
lost when it comes to the Matrix. Everything we know is what the
Matrix has told us.

All humans plugged in could be seeing a different portion of
histroy, whatever their mind accepts...

Thank you Etaphase for jumping in with 1/4 mill before me. And yes, it is fantastic and also extremely relieving to see that pple can see time and the exact year here are irrelevent. They could very well be seeing absolutely anything, as long at is a plausable and acceptable rational for the synapsis, why not? What better way to control a mind than have them in an acceptable, pleasurable state of mind with just a hint of irony and a nice dose of pain thrown in for good measure. A certain mind needs more control? Not a problem. Put them into a certain place in time more pleasurable and completely acceptable to them and there lies the axium; Perfect mind control for the AI to utilise at any time, and with almost accurate pressision.

So just imagine how strong the minds are that are freed. And then think of Neos'.

Originally posted by EtaPhase
All humans plugged in could be seeing a different portion of
histroy, whatever their mind accepts...

Well... that's a hell of a lot of software... ;)

maybe if you guys would stop and think for a minute, you would understand.

the matrix is a city set in the year 1999, it doesn't extend to other areas of the world, it's a confined 'bubble'.

It's intended to appear as the world did in 1999, but it is not meant to REPRODUCE that world. That means things like population numbers are not intended to be accurate based on historical facts of the world.

In other words, it doesn't matter how many fooking people are in the matrix.

That being said, my guess is that there are 1,024,000 people in the matrix.

Why so low?

Simple. It's the highest manageable number they can have until they perfect the matrix.

Why not 25million?

Ok, here's the deal. 1% of 1million is 10,000. That's 10,000 people in the matrix that you have to deal with that reject the programming. People who reject the programming act like a computer virus inside the matrix, infecting everyone else with their ideas about the world not being real. If they had a higher population, it would be impossible to contain the spread of these beliefs.

The spread of these beliefs, ironically enough, is stopped by the people of zion hacking in and freeing them from the matrix. Since they make an effort to free someone before they are twenty, that's 10,000 people in a 20 year period, or 500 people freed per year. That's when the matrix isn't starting to get unstable, which is why morpheus talked about freeing more minds in the last 6 months than in the last 6 years.

So why so many people in zion if only 1 percent of 1million are freed?

It's called breeding. You know, the birds and the bees. The vast majority of people in zion are born in zion. Only a small number are actually 'freed' minds.

This situation facilitates two phenomenon.

The first is that the population of the matrix is much lower than expected.

The second is that they can't get rid of zion permanently, as it is the only reason the matrix can continue to function for any length of time.

Though there are some good points you're raised, speaking aggressively and repetitively in 4 different threads about the same thing is really meaningless-and no cut the "that's because you guys can't see crap" 'cos no one has. end o' story.

Originally posted by Terikan
maybe if you guys would stop and think for a minute, you would understand.

the matrix is a city set in the year 1999, it doesn't extend to other areas of the world, it's a confined 'bubble'.

It's intended to appear as the world did in 1999, but it is not meant to REPRODUCE that world. That means things like population numbers are not intended to be accurate based on historical facts of the world.

In other words, it doesn't matter how many fooking people are in the matrix.

That being said, my guess is that there are 1,024,000 people in the matrix.

Why so low?

Simple. It's the highest manageable number they can have until they perfect the matrix.

Why not 25million?

Ok, here's the deal. 1% of 1million is 10,000. That's 10,000 people in the matrix that you have to deal with that reject the programming. People who reject the programming act like a computer virus inside the matrix, infecting everyone else with their ideas about the world not being real. If they had a higher population, it would be impossible to contain the spread of these beliefs.

The spread of these beliefs, ironically enough, is stopped by the people of zion hacking in and freeing them from the matrix. Since they make an effort to free someone before they are twenty, that's 10,000 people in a 20 year period, or 500 people freed per year. That's when the matrix isn't starting to get unstable, which is why morpheus talked about freeing more minds in the last 6 months than in the last 6 years.

So why so many people in zion if only 1 percent of 1million are freed?

It's called breeding. You know, the birds and the bees. The vast majority of people in zion are born in zion. Only a small number are actually 'freed' minds.

This situation facilitates two phenomenon.

The first is that the population of the matrix is much lower than expected.

The second is that they can't get rid of zion permanently, as it is the only reason the matrix can continue to function for any length of time.

exactly

Terikan you simply stated another theory; and while I'm glad to
see that you do have your own theories, how can you expect
anyone to take you seriously if you're slamming their theories to
promote your own?

MacLeod who were you referring to?

Folks this trilogy provokes thought. There's nothing wrong with
considering different angles to the story. Once we all see M3 we
can look back at all the fan fiction we've written, get a laugh out
of it, and see where some of our concepts were actually true.
Lighten up, especially you Terikan :)

Thank you for making me laugh again!
That being said, my guess is that there are 1,024,000 people in the matrix.
That's cute. It's actually 1,048,576, btw.

But whatever. Where do you come up with this number? Ah, I see, because 1% of that is approximately 10,000 - and that's the most that the machines can deal with. And where did you come up with that number? Did you pull it out of your... hmm... some magical place?

I thought so.

I thought it was obvious Eta, I'm sorry. At the point I entered Teriken had just answered 4 threads with MiM stuff everone has come to expect. Ugh.

"It's intended to appear as the world did in 1999, but it is not meant to REPRODUCE that world. That means things like population numbers are not intended to be accurate based on historical facts of the world."
Definitely right, thus every number that has been 'throw' here are meaningless.

I do agree with that about most of population of Zion being born there. There are many families in Zion. Also:

Hamann: Tonight let us honor these men and women, these our soldiers, our warriors, these our husbands and wives, our brothers and sisters, our children. Let us remember those that have been lost, and let us give thanks for those that have been found, and who stand here beside us....

Maybe Hamann' speech is pointing to who are the majority and who the minority.

Part of my post was a theory, most of it is just logic produced FACT.

And the reason why you should listen to my theories is because they don't suck, and most everyone else's does.

yeah, that's right.

feel it?

Pshaw...no I don't, smart mouth. Try not to demean yourself anymore...
Good one with the quote: we'll never know how many of the Zionists were natural inhabitants. Now think of this though: would being born there still mean you're a part of the "free-thinkers"? Certainly not, and if so, aren't they somehow manipulable or predictable to a larger degree by the Arc's machinations?...

Hmmm...well certainly being born in Zion doesn't make you a free-mind or whatever, and it certainly doesn't make you a warrior like most of the rebels are. But the humans in the matrix are predictable because they are only responding to simulae given by the machines. In a world where AI doesn't control everything, how could they predict what a human would do?

That's correct, but that's exactly what's been debated all along-if some how the Arc does know everything that happens outside as well-something MiM folks pounce on. The destruction of Soran's ship, location of Zion, predictablity of the Zionists?...

Well at the risk of being seriously flamed, I don't believe the MIAM theory, so I don't think the Architect or any other AI has knowledge or power over the inhabitants of Zion

Hee hee...there're way too many on your side for them to risk flaming again. I'm not speaking for them too, but its just one possibility that MiM or not the Arc and/or Oracle can see alot of what happens in the real world too...the O for example knew Neo wasn't sleeping well.

hmmm....'it is a pickle, no doubt about that'. lol. I have no explanation for many things in the movies. And to be honest, I think it probably will end up being some sort of MIAM-type ending. I'm just too stubborn to actually accept it :)

6,000,000,000 *.01 = 60,000,000.

However, it's possible that most of those people didn't take the red pill.

You may want to read some of the posts in this thread :)

I know they shoot the matrix on Australia and most of the buildings are from there, but does anyone thinks they could do some kind of "Thruman Show" for them, so there is no need for all the world to be plugged to belive we're in it, they never say in wich city are they.

The Matrix is a very convincing film. It's led most to ask this question... "Are we in the matrix?".

it doesnt matter if the Arch was talking about 24 billion or 6 billion. The only person that matters in the Matrix is Neo the one, because he can reproram the matrix and choose people repopulation Zion. Now that being said, the people choosen to repopulate Zion, must come from the updated Matrix after reprogramming. Thus Zion will begin reproduction, by unplugging, (I think 17 or 16 people). which will ultimately lead to another war between Zion and the Matrix. That is why the prophesy is true because Neo chose to save Trinity, which will ultimately ends in his death but life without war for Zion.


Any disputes....

Terikan, that's about the worst theory I've yet read.

The matrix is just a "bubble" of one city? Man, I wonder what those people think who bump into the edges of that bubble? I seem to recall that in 1999 people were driving and flying all over the place. I bet they're pissed in the matrix that they can't travel very far... or that if they do no one is there. Didn't Morpheus evade police in London? I suppose London isn't really part of this tiny matrix bubble though. That's going to piss off those businessmen flying there as well... But maybe the machines went out of their way to create a roaming bubble that just appears to contain billions of people.

I mean, as you pointed out, your theory is obviously logically derived FACT!

:rolleyes:

You think too literally, and you really need to grow up. The matrix, no matter how big it is, will always be a bubble. It will always have borders and boundaries. However, being virtual means that unlike in the Truman Show, it can hide those border and boundaries flawlessly, so that people never realize that the extend of their world is but one or two cities. I'm not making up a theory here, this is the possiblities of a computer generated world, and I'm simply letting you in on this knowledge since you seem so deprived.

What business men? You mean the ones from our world, this isn't our world. Like I already said (pay attention this time) this world is meant to resemble 1999, not recreate it.

You guys think it's funny, and my comment that the population is 1,024,000 was indeed a joke, but the rest of it was serious. They can't have more than maybe a million people, and 1% of that coming to the matrix would easily account for the current population of zion due to breeding habits. Just like how neo can free 23 people to recreate zion, he doesn't have to free 250 million.

Originally posted by Terikan
you really need to grow up.
Pot, kettle, black.

They can't have more than maybe a million people, [/B]
Elaborate on "can't."

Pot, kettle, black.

Stfu, n00b, kthx.

Elaborate on "can't."

Already did above.

Oh... so you're a twelve year old stuck in a ten year old's body. Your mom must be proud.

the matrix is a city set in the year 1999, it doesn't extend to other areas of the world, it's a confined 'bubble'.
However, being virtual means that unlike in the Truman Show, it can hide those border and boundaries flawlessly, so that people never realize that the extend of their world is but one or two cities.
OK Einstein, why the contradiction? Of course we're talking about a virtual world. By definition, the only borders and boundaries it can possibly have are those at the extents of what the program can recreate - i.e., the configuration space encoded. There is absolutely no need to create and then hide borders or boundaries; if the program can handle a certain space, then it can handle it. It's almost as if you're describing the people as physically real and contained in some sort of holodeck that has finite volume, but creates the illusion of an unbounded terrain. That isn't the case at all. We're not talking about the size of the holodeck, but rather the size of the program.

"So that people never realize that the extend (sic) of their world is but one or two cities." WTF? If you get on a virtual plane in the virtual matrix, and fly to four different cities, then each is logically as real as the other, within the confines of what constitutes the virtual reality. There can't be any moving "hidden" borders in any meaningful sense; no more than there is a border between the US and Canada - it is useful for keeping track of data, but it is not useful for describing reality. If the program recreates the appearance of four cities, then at least four cities are necessarily included in the configuration space.

Your "theory" in this regard is as based on fact as your inflated ego is.

They can't have more than maybe a million people,

Elaborate on "can't."

Already did above.
What, this work of genius?

Why so low?

Simple. It's the highest manageable number they can have until they perfect the matrix.
Really? What a revelation. I suppose the W. Brothers let you in on this one? Why not 500,000? Wouldn't that be a more manageable number? Why not 50,000,000? In the crop configuration we're shown, you could put a billion people in the state of Deleware and you still might not find them unless you knew where to look.

Fact is, you didn't offer any logical explanation of how you derived this number - you just pulled it outta your ass, as usual.

I was undr the impression that the 1% refered only to "The Ones".

Because according tio the story, it was The One that freed the first of them. So all the people in Zion are either fruit of Love, or were freed by the ones that were freed by The One.

Remember, it's a statistic. Just becauise it's 1%, that does not mean it has to be 1% literally.
Actually it could never happens. Because it's just a probability.

1 % that rejected the matrix - if we say in 1999 ( 6 billion pple ) - 1 % must be 60,000,000 >> 60 milion pple

we know that 250 thousands inhibitants live in zion ... then where are the others ?

they could have died .. coz the first matrix was the cause of death for the first humans ....

don't forget that the real world's time is close to 2200 so two hundred years have passed .. many pple had died but more are born, so they were much fewer b4 ... so i think like what the arc said the one has to pick 13 females and 7 males -i think that's the number- to start a new zion ... 20 pple in 2 hundred years will multiply + freeing new minds especially is the last six monthes - neo's time - that besides the humans that are still waking up when they reject the program even after spending half of his life in the matrix like in 'world record'-animatrix- or the first one that freed the others, he woke up alone ....