Seraph programmed to fight only equally agaist people trying to visit the oracle?

if uve seen the part in reloaded were neo n seraph fight seraph doesnt even get really hit by neo they are pretty much equally squared off. but then n etm the seen were seraph fights ballard he gets punched. now if he could fight neo like that he could literally destroy ballard. i forgot whoelse really visited the oracle durin reloaded but that makes sence to me. "you dont truly know someone until u fight them"

naw cuz then why in the ETM would have Niobe or Ghost be able to beat him so he barely had any health left

well how else were you supposed to get past the oracle? like equally defend yourself agaist him? there woulda ben no other point to having him in there.

Originally posted by Prophesy
well how else were you supposed to get past the oracle? like equally defend yourself agaist him? there woulda ben no other point to having him in there.

When Seraph fights someone, he does't want too beat him. He wants to know him. After the fight he know, if his opennent(sp?) is the one or not, and if he not the one or a rebbel, he probably destroy him.

yeah i guess that makes sence. i kinda didnt think about the u do not truly kno some1 line enuf

Originally posted by SullenGiRLaFa
naw cuz then why in the ETM would have Niobe or Ghost be able to beat him so he barely had any health left

ya know u don't even have to beat the seraph. just let him beat you, and you won't have to play the chinatown levels.

Seraph is a firewall that filters those who reach the Oracle.

lol i find it hilarious that you just posted that exact same comment in a thread where it made sense, and then decided to put it again here, even though that isn't even what we are discussing

Heh finally someone who looked closely at the fights too.
I feel Seraph doesn't fight to win, he fights to explore the opponent's style and guage their character from it. How one fights is indeed a window into his soul. That said I feel Seraph is the true martial artist: he can imitate any style instantly and effectively. With Ballard he took alot of hits because Ballard's style (boxing) involves leaving oneself open for that prize sucker punch. With Neo (Wushu) its a delicate juggle of concentration and testing of an enemies defense...Seraph executed them all to a T <waves Pom-Poms> :D

My point, as it relates to this thread, is that Seraph is not programmed to fight equally against those attempting to visit the Oracle. Rather, he is determining whether they may meet the Oracle.

The Oracle has made enemies, not everybody is allowed to see her. Only those who's visit will play a significant role on the path of The One:
Morpheus, Trinity, Neo, Ballard, Niobe and Ghost. Only them (yet) not anybody else.
Seraph knows there fighting style and by fighting them, he knows who they are. Seraph knows which one is allowed to see The Oracle, during the fight Seraph knows which one he has in front of him, if he/she is allowed to pass Seraph let him through, if not then the door will be closed.
Seraph is some kind of guardian and let only them through who'll play a part off the future or with the path of the One.

Seraph is in a way programmed to fight people that try to visit the oracle. Thats because he can tell who someone is by fighting them, and gets to know them. He's like a Norton Anitvirus program that protects what matters most. But he isn't bad in any way, as you'll see in M3.

Yeah, think about it this way. When Seraph says, "you do not truly know someone until you fight them," that directly implies (to me) that he's not even really fighting in the first place. It's a metaphor, the entire fight scene is a metaphor. Seraph is trying to "know" that person, to determine whether or not they are worthy to see The Oracle. Therefore, he is not trying to beat anyone. But he'll beat anyone who isn't worthy.

It looks to me like he is either beaten by Smith (found worthy), or Smith just straight up beat him, even though he wasn't worthy. But personally, i think Smith just straight up beating him even though he isn't worthy makes little sense. It defeats the whole purpose of what Seraph is there for. I wonder if Seraph actually deems Smith worthy to see The Oracle. He's got parts of Neo's program imprinted onto him, so it's not that far fetched. But what would that mean?

I agree with you 100%. Was your user name supposed to say Cypher?

Originally posted by Jetfire90
I agree with you 100%. Was your user name supposed to say Cypher?

No, my user name is supposed to be Cyfre. It was a name of something from about ten years ago, just a happy coincidence that they sound the same, but that's why it's spelled differently.

Seraph protects the path of The One,
and only those who'll play a significant role on it, are allowed to see the Oracle:
Morpheus, Trinity, Neo, Neo, Niobe, Ballard and Ghost.
They are important to Neo's path and are therefore allowed to pass.

I think that neo didnt want to kill him so he didnt fight at full to kill him