General Question about Matrix from new girl

spiroll

Hi, I was happy to find this site and have been having a great time reading posts.

There's always been a question in my mind about a scene in the first Matrix (I haven't yet seen the 2nd, I am waiting to see it at an Imax theater in June...if I can wait that long) -

(Apologies if this has been discussed previously)

In Matrix (1) the scene where "Thomas Anderson" is getting reprimanded by his boss for being late for work, there are window washers and I've always just known there was something to that, but can't quite put my finger on it. I watched the scene so many times trying to see just what it could mean...how it could tie in to the rest of the story...After a friend and I discussed this at length, we came up with the fact that it is the "sound" and not the window washers themselves that is important. Friend feels that it is Neo in the real world pushing against his pod in sheer agony over what is going on inside the Matrix. I find a few flaws with the theory but am not altogether unsatisfied with the answer, I just wish I had more to back it up...which got me thinking....

The friend said to me "Don't watch...listen" So, going on the whole "free your mind" and using the cliche of "thinking outside of the box" - how many other points are made in the movie(s) if you close your eyes and listen, but don't look? I imagine this would apply only to inside of the Matrix, not the real world.

Thanks for any thoughts - this has been on my mind for years. :)

Spi
Neo879

if you want to ask to ask a question then u should go to the spoilers section as wilcard said.

Neo
Dadumafugu

I never tried to read much into that. It just seemed like a cool way to introduce the scene and it seemed to show that Neo was just generally distracted, not really paying much attention to the boss. It also explains why the scaffolding that he would (not) be using later was there. But now thanks to you, I'm gonna be paranoid looking for meaning in the window washers, aauugghh!! ;)

And about the IMax, I read somewhere (I'll see if i can dig it up) that:

A) The Imax version was to be release the same day as the regular version.
B) The Imax projectors could handle a max of 2 hours and that a little would have to be cut from the movie to make it fit.

This may just be a load of BS. But if not, maybe you'll get lucky and the part they cut will be that stupid dance/sex scene. :D
spiroll

Originally posted by Neo879
if you want to ask to ask a question then u should go to the spoilers section as wilcard said.

Neo

Sorry, didn't mean to incorrectly post - just figured since the scene was first shown in 1999 it wouldn't qualify as a spoiler? Sorry again.

Spi
spiroll

Thanks re: the IMAX information - I didn't hear that, but if it's the case then I'm going to have to see it in both formats (okay, not really disappointed about having to see it more than once in the theater!) :)

I originally thought that the window washers were just a cool way to introduce the scene, too - but they didn't need to be there - and so much a part of the entire scene throughout the whole thing - if you run the scene and close your eyes, the SOUND of the squeegee is there ALOT...it really does sound JUST like if Neo was pushing against his pod-thing, I can picture it in my mind and it makes alot of sense; Neo being the strong person that he is could have done that while hooked up in his pod, moved, wrestling with his intense frustration at the mediocrity of what was going on in "his" matrix life at the moment. Ties into Trinity saying that he's always felt that something was off - just couldn't exactly put it into words.

And another thought - there was no reason for him to not pay much attention to his boss when he was so freaked out that he was late for work in the first place - trying to be the good little droid and all.

I wonder if I should fire up the DVD and listen to more scenes of Thomas Anderson ... if he was so vividly wrestling with the mediocrity of his bosses office, (enter the sound of pod scratching) would there not have been other times when he would have done that - when the Agent was interviewing him for the first time, etc.?

Didn't mean to run on....obviously, this has been on my mind and I never had a place to talk about it before, so thanks for letting me vent it out....

Spi

Originally posted by Dadumafugu
I never tried to read much into that. It just seemed like a cool way to introduce the scene and it seemed to show that Neo was just generally distracted, not really paying much attention to the boss. It also explains why the scaffolding that he would (not) be using later was there. But now thanks to you, I'm gonna be paranoid looking for meaning in the window washers, aauugghh!! ;)

(snip)
This may just be a load of BS. But if not, maybe you'll get lucky and the part they cut will be that stupid dance/sex scene. :D

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