Oracle: You have the sight now, Neo, you are looking at the world without time.
What is this?
He can see future events that happen inside the matrix. These events happen exactly as in his dreams.
Any explanation? Hope no say 'he has powers outside the matrix' or something like that.
Did these events already happened, and is he dreaming what he can remember?
I started thinking about the Oracle's words yesterday. It seems that there are two possible explanations:
1. Neo is seeing future events just like the Oracle because he and everyone else is a program
2. Neo is more literally seeing WITHOUT time, out of sequence because the Merovingian has kidnapped the timekeeper program.
As far as theory 2 goes, I can't take credit for that. I just read an interesting post about the guy being taken away at the Merovingian's resturant being a program that controls time. The posts also says that there are a number of hints about time.
i agree with part of #1..but i don't believe he's a program that just wouldn't make sense..i believe what he really cares about/loves as if the time in the reloaded he will be able to dream up what happens but maybe later in revolutions he discovers how to predict things like the oracle..but i also think she saying u cant depend on me anymore to give u answers and that ull just have to realize them on your own.
1- Well, whether true or false it doesn't explain how he can dream the events EXACTLY as they will happen. I don't think the Oracle can see the future in that way.
2- Interesting. I don't know about that Timekeeper. At least this should mean Neo's dreams could be his past events.
Originally posted by Seba Reloaded
Oracle: You have the sight now, Neo, you are looking at the world without time.
What is this?
He can see future events that happen inside the matrix. These events happen exactly as in his dreams.
Any explanation? Hope no say 'he has powers outside the matrix' or something like that.
Did these events already happened, and is he dreaming what he can remember?
My explanation would be, that Neo can see into the future cause he is the ONE
I think premature events have been inserted into Neo's mind, by way of dream. I believe this occurred by someone controlling the time program and by downloading it into Neo's dreams.
the oracle acts in mysterious ways. remember: think of her words as more of a guide, and not between right and wrong. thats all i have to say about her quote.
i have some other questions about this tho. how can he see the future of the matrix from outside the matrix? he wasnt connected to the matrix when he had the dream, so how does he see something inside the matrix from outside?
plus, what he saw happened becuz a series of events that happened outside the matrix. a ship was destroyed, causing trinity to have to enter the matrix and fulfill neo's dream. how is it possible to see the future of the matrix when that future depends on events happening that are outside the matrix to happen? becuz if the ship was never destroyed, trinity would never have entered the matrix. and without this event outside the matrix, neo's dream wouldnt have been fufilled. i dont see how it is possible to see into the future of the matrix when the events outside the matrix cannot be controled (supposedly). becuase without these events happening outside the matrix, neo's vision would have been wrong.
Whatever is Oracle's intention, it doesn't matter here. It's true that Neo was dreaming the future. The quote is irrelevant, I just posted to show what I'm talking about.
The matrix only can exist in a mind. And his mind was dreaming about the matrix, just that. There isn't connection needed. But supposing it is needed can have an interesting explanation. Many have stated that Neo is connected to the matrix when in coma, maybe his connection was started before that, when dreaming.
Going to the specific, it was the sentinel's bomb that 'triggered' the chain of events. And that was controlled, of course, from the machine's world. Maybe, from the Source.
But what I mean is, how can all happen EXACTLY as in his dream?
it did happen exactly, didnt it?
plus, they deployed the bomb, but how did they noe that the bridge was weak? and that it would break before they could warn the ship? seeing into the future with two worlds, from yours into another (when both worlds are affected by the other), is logically impossible. the subject of choice is a big subject. its fate, that neo's dream happen. which means there was no choice than other than that to happen, which would also mean that there is no free will. and in this circumstance, becuz there is no free will in the matrix, that would mean there is no free will in the real world. this makes no sense. becuz, the events neo saw were obviously predetermined. they were going to happen no matter what. now, i can see the absence of choice in the matrix, but not in the real world. a world that depends on control (matrix) cannot control events inside itself when events depended on choice (zion/real world) effect it. im having a hard time articulating my point here...im sure you get the point tho.
the chain of events was set off by the machine bomb, from the machine world. the machine world is the same as the real world, no? machine world = where the machines live?
That was a thing that I was thinking about a long time....was it possible for the Arc to predict the personalities and negligence of people like the guy having his lousy habit or stamping hard on the bridge? Yet if he could he would've predicted everything like where every ship would go and kill them straightaway....anyway I think you're trying to prove the existance of the MiM here icedrops...I believe in a similar but slightly different way-the matrix and the real world share a common link-the "higher" world, not another matrix. perhaps the focus is on how Neo embodies help from an otherworldly power or system of grand events? That foreseeing the future really exists as well as fate and so on? It would seem that like Star Wars incredible luck is on the side of the good guys....
Neo has the sight and is looking at the world without time because he's the one. meaning he can do anything inside the matrix. he makes the choices whether people live or die. he already made the choice whether trinity lives, just because he didnt want her to die.
remember neo is living in a dreamworld, he's experiencing a 'lucid dream' really (its a dream where you know you are dreaming, but you dont wake up. instead you can really change the dream into any direction you want. because its your dream).
that is why Neo chooses whether Trinity lives or dies. that is why he's looking at the world without time, because time isnt a factor.
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