Mega Spoiler Or Bluff?

smith_fan

I've found a fanpage, which seems to reveal the whole M3 plot. If this is real or fake, I can't tell you. Only the oracle knows:)

SPOILER:

http://www.xzaust.com/index.php?page=matrix

I just read the first page. I don't want to ruin the movie. So, it's your decision. Maybe it's not true, I don't know.


smith_fan
CraHan

I don't know, it's speculation based on the scenes you see in the Revolutions trailer. It could be accurate, but as I said it's mostly guesswork.
Jaded

Someone else's thread directed me to that spoiler. I don't think the spoiler is the REAL THING!

Entertaining and unexpected, but no...I don't think it's for real.
Madhijs

well if this is not real, the writer that made this up should make movies!!! Damn this story is cool!! almost hope that it is real...

just 2 and a half month to go....
The_Anomaly

Hmm...there must be a glitch in this Matrix site. I could've sworn that I just answered a similar thread either yesterday or the day before with a similar reply. Deja vu for real.
i c 3 d r p z

that was....great. if the matrix revolutions really happened like that, id be very satisfied. im sure there is a lot more to the movie than what is said, but that summary is TYTE. it gave me goosebumbs at parts. and if it does happen exactly the same, it wont matter to me that i already knew everything.

however, i love the fight scenes in the matrix movies. and it seems that the only fight scenes are club hell and sentinel attacks. i guess thats tyte...oh yeah. i almost forgot the smith/neo final scene. that doesnt have me TOO excited, but i guess it will be cool. the previews of that fight scene look dumb, however. all they do is punch each other in slow motion. its rather comical rather than cool. im sure there will be just as much action and mind blowing fx's in m3 than in m1 and m2.
i c 3 d r p z

p.s. for those who read the link as well, do you noe how it ended? cause i didnt understand what it was saying.
Seyton

What happens in the end of that speculation to Popper? Is he the real one?
m0r0n3s

All I can tell you is that this guy was really high when he wrote all that.

Personally I don't agree with most of it, tough it was fun to read.
TheSpectator

This plot development is made by a man with a high amount of imagination. By watching multiple trailers he can't only tell you the plot, but he can also tell us what will be said in the movie - highly unthinkable. This website also showed a possible plot of Reloaded in April, I read it, I loved it, but as soon as I saw Reloaded, it sucked. Because it was inaccurate, it was wrong.
Ergo although it makes sense, I believe that this isn't what exactly will happen. We'll see on november 5
TheRealOne

Mega Spoiler or Bluff? Mega Spoiler or Bluff? Mega Spoiler or Bluff?

BLUFF!
naz

dat was blatantly a speculation..... it doesnt reveal anyhting new....
definitly a guess work from the trailor.... and some theories added make it seem real.....

BLUFF!

i dont think anyone knows how it will really end until nov5
smith_fan

Originally posted by naz
dat was blatantly a speculation..... it doesnt reveal anyhting new....
definitly a guess work from the trailor.... and some theories added make it seem real.....

BLUFF!

i dont think anyone knows how it will really end until nov5

Well, some people will already know it a week before when the first real copies of the movie appear in the Internet...
TheSpectator

I really doubt that, that somebody has the movie in his possession before november 5th.
Reloaded had a very tight security, no press releases before may 15th, no dvd-rips before ehm... there aren't dvd-rips yet (wow)
everybody who worked on Reloaded/Revolutions had to sign a contract, in case information was leaking out through them they had to pay couple of millions fee. This was necessary to prevent illegal copies of the movie on the internet before may 15th.
I believe that this will happen exactly with Revolutions: no press releases before november 5th, no dvd-rips, no information-leaks by co-workers.
With only one purpose, to pull the public to the cinemas and not to spoil everything before that.
leo_one

There's no relation to the system failure on the end of the first one, no explanation on why neo could stop the sentinels (just doing it again) but nice work
leo_one

I forgot, there are dvd-rips :):o
TheSpectator

Where can I find one??????? Right now all I have is a lousy videocam copy.
Matrixio

Well the screen captures are from the trailer and the text is identical with the spoiler posted earlier by vibronic, "Possible Matrix:Revolutions Scripts - Post 2 of 2". It's been around for a while.
However, I do think the plot sounds disturbingly plausible. It virtually explains every open question.
Right now I just feel so bad for reading it! :(
Not only because of the giveaway, but also because I find that ending soooo rotten! Blast!
I feel I've just ruined the anticipation for myself. Booohooo!!! *crying his eyes out*
Smith_squared

I hope that's just someone's well-thought-out guess. I hate it when "our hero" doesn't survive
Smith_squared

Based on the images i'm seeing in these trailers.....I'm unfortunately beginning to agree with the spoiler.......but PLEASE don't let them be right about the ending!!!!
The_Anomaly

I agree, especially considering that this spoiler was posted well before any of the current Revolutions trailers were even released. I hate that I even read it in the first place. Oh well...
Smith_squared

Yep, on July 14th according to the site's news.

The only comforting thing I've found so far is that the site admin said that he couldn't verify its authenticity, but it seemed real.

I like all of it except the end(from where trin dies, on)
Metallica

You'll be happy to know that this is bunch of bs, because if you dl the trailer from the official site that Neo clearly talked to Bane, and Bane turned into agent smith in the flame and says something like "an old enemy", (have to watch the trailer again to be sure). But on the web site, he wrote that Neo was jacked when the ship was attacked by Bane and Morpheus killed him before Neo unplugged. So it's not true, plus, those screen shots from above are all from the original trailer, if the guy has really seen it, why wouldnt he post some new screen shots? Also if you saw the theatrical trailer, it shows Neo blew all the sentinels away, he didn't mention that. Plus Trinity wouldn't just die in a crash just like that, the W brothers wouldnt make it as such a trivial thing.
m0r0n3s

But you have to agree that Neo is going to talk to the machines and make a deal
(Matrix Mainframe: "Speak..."
Neo: "The program Smith has grown beyond your control and you can't stop him, I'm the only one that can"
or something like it, i don't remember exactly)
Smith_squared

I have found at least one flaw now.
Bane can't blind neo while he's jacked in.
Why?
1. the new trailer shows them talking and fighting in the real world.
2. given#1, why would neo jack in, knowing that he's vulnerable to Bane/Smith?
3. according to this story, neo and trin go to 01, based on the new trailer, he starts wearing the blindfold midflight.
Matrixio

Originally posted by Smith_squared
I have found at least one flaw now.
Bane can't blind neo while he's jacked in.
Why?
1. the new trailer shows them talking and fighting in the real world.
2. given#1, why would neo jack in, knowing that he's vulnerable to Bane/Smith?
3. according to this story, neo and trin go to 01, based on the new trailer, he starts wearing the blindfold midflight.

1. Remember that vibronic posted 2 scripts. Very similar but with subtle differences. What we have seen on that website with images from the Rev. trailer is #2. But in #1 the Bane/Neo confrontation is put this way:
"Aboard the logos, Bane blinds Neo with an electrical conduit during a fight before Neo kills him (just after realizing he's smith inside) Trinity is beat up but okay to fly the ship".
2. Neo doesn't know about the Bane danger until he wakes up from his coma, which started at the end of Reloaded.
3. The continuation of the section I just quoted from script #1 says: ", with Neo's "second sight" - he can somehow sense the machines
life-force and "sees" them now". This seems to imply that Neo cannot use his normal sight.
Smith_squared

I'd like to see that first script.

I don't think you answered my third point
Matrixio

Originally posted by Smith_squared
I'd like to see that first script.

I don't think you answered my third point

The script #1 is entitled "Possible Matrix:Revolutions Scripts - Post 1 of 2". You can find it by searching for a post with that title in the Oracle's Apartment section.

If you read this script, you can see that Neo wakes up in the Logos, fights and kills Bane, but is blinded. He then proceeds to fly off with Trinity. It doesn't explicitly say that he gets blindfolded, but the quote I put in the last post seems to imply it. So, script #1 still in perfect sync with what we know so far...
Matrixio

From the knowledge we now have after the launch of the Final Theatrical Revolutions Trailer and the 3 TV Spots it becomes more and more clear that vibronic’s spoiler scripts posted earlier are dead-accurate and contain no flaws, as far as I can see. This, however, raises the question of whether these scripts are his theory or real Matrix knowledge, passed on by someone “in the know”.
Theory or Truth?
Speculation or Secrets revealed?
In order to find out, I started studying his scripts and found this sentence in script #1:
“the wild eyed guy IN THE REV. TRAILER [my capitalization] is the train man”
That’s a giveaway, vibronic!!! How could you know the content of the Revolutions trailer in mid-july a full five weeks before its official launch?

So, if the date of vibronic’s post really is as stated, 2003-07-14 (administrators?), it is a sign that he (or whoever originated these scripts) is in contact with someone involved in the production of Revolutions.
Another is the richness of detail in the theory. If it were mere speculation it would be more crude and focus on the main elements of the plot. Here, it’s scene descriptions as if a cast/crew member is recalling details from the set/production.
Yet another is the style of the Q&A section at the end of the first script. One line has: “i don't remember the
council being mentioned or anything about previous ones”. Remember? This is vibronic’s mistery contact explaining what details he can remember from his participation in the movie, rather than vibronic’s own speculations.

All in all, since the theories are convincing and answer every important question left in the Matrix trilogy, I’m quite convinced this theory is a true spoiler – real insider knowledge about the film we’re all awaiting!

On a final note, I’d like to stress that I’m as unhappy about the ending – with our heroes dying and humans not being freed from the Matrix – as anyone. I didn’t do this study to try to support these scripts, but oppositely to disproof them, by trying to find some flaws in them. However, I haven’t been able to. Quite the contrary, every new piece of information we’ve learned from the new Revolutions trailers corroborates the scripts. Sad, isn’t it? :(
Smith_squared

Same here.
Try as i might, I cant disprove them
The kicker for me is that when describing the ending, he uses exact quotes!
No one speculates using quotes!
Matrixio

I hope some bright guy succeeds in proving these scripts wrong.

But in case none does - should we put an extra warning on them, administrators? I know this forum is a spoiler minefield, and anyone is reading at their own risk here, but you know...

I have been reading so many weak so-called spoilers that I was caught off-guard reading these two. And now I really regret it. *sigh* A good part of my enjoyment of Revolutions is spoiled now. And I have only myself to blame, I know...
But there may still be many out there we can save from the big spoiler blues. I noticed there are still relatively few who have read the two spoiler scripts. Help the rest retain their Matrix-virginity!
m0r0n3s

I still think this is a product of a really big imagination and watching the teaser frame by frame.

Did you noticed that he say's that Trinity dies at the crash when they are trying to get to 01? But at the end Trinity and Morpheus are walking together (thats a huge flaw).

About the super brawl, I think it's a very lame way to get rid of Smith (jackin Neo off while Smith is inside Neo).

And I don't believe the kid is so important, he's appears in Zion leading the people to battle or something similar. That's just because he believes so much in Neo.

If you consider all of the above all this flaws are at the ending, because there aren't any pictures of it. So he just invented an ending (with a lot of imagination I might add).
PK4788

First of all they are all good ideas, some may be right. But i know the ending is wrong, and that the robots dont attack him and get him and force him to jack in to talk to the Robots. Because hes talking to them in the real world during the final trailer. Also, that last part wouldnt destroy all the smiths, just the smith taking over neo
Deadeye2k

i think it sounds real apart from the end. what i think is that if it is real, den the person who wrote out the script has either a partial version of the movie or has only seen 2 thirds of it. either way, the ending was rubbish.
UnbrokenMirror

#1
The date of vibronic's post has nothing to do with insider knowledge© I knew about the train guy long before I saw the new trailer© "How?" do you ask? Simple- play Enter The Matrix© You see him in a train tunnel talking to Niobe, and he's also spotted in the trailer at the end of the game© This could easily be basis for making him an important character in any "script" you would come up with©

#2
I've noticed several things about the next Neo-Smith fight that are somewhat intriguing, although I don't know what they could mean©

They fight on a street in the rain, very reminiscent of the street Neo looked down in M1 when he tried to get out of the car and Trinity told him that he knew "exactly where it ends, and I know you don't want to be there"©

They fight in a subway tunnel with a train going through that says "Loop" on it, just like in M1©

I'm not sure if I'm correct in this part because I just noticed it in someone's avatar and it could just be my mind playing tricks on me, but it looks like when Smith flies through the wall to attack Neo, he ¥Neo¤ was standing in the sparring program from M1 just before he jumped over Smith©

I'm sure there are other things I've forgotten to mention here but I haven't seen the trailer in a while and I'm just working from memory©
Downstreamer

I pray that spoiler isn't true. It would mean that everything that the resistance worked for has been lost. But what I don't get is how the kid takes over the arc. and what happens to Neo.

Oh and I do remember that bum in the train station as well, from ETM. He was the one who said something about 72 hours left.

Nevertheless, if the spoiler is true, then that would explain why the Matrix still exist and there is another game coming out (Matrix Online), which takes place after Revolutions.

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