Matrix vs Star Wars

Hey, don't you think that the Matrix is to the mellenium what Star Wars was to the 70's. Look at all the parallels. Kind of a sleeper movie, yet has a serious cult following, pretty clean, no sex, great special effects for it's time, (set standards). Both sequels have better effects, (excluding the new star wars, The first 3 were better). Come on America, join in....

Geez, the matrix of course:mad:

Sheesh, god, he wasn't asking which was better. He was showing parallels between the two, how they were similar.

I agree with you. You're absolutely right I think.

-Wc-

PS: user:god is from Romania, new user - might not have the best english. Cut him a little slack.

Good point, WC. Didn't notice the location, just saw the angry smilie and it looked like he was copping an attitude. If not, I apologize.

One of the many parallels would then be the one between Neo and Luke. They were both living out a notmal life till in both cases a teacher comes in the story to develop their awesome powers of which both Neo and Luke were not aware they had. In case of Star Wars this is ofcourse Obi-Wan; in case of Matrix Morpheus.
Both Star Wars and The Matrix are cult films and after what I've seen from Matrix Reloaded me thinks that it might just become what Star Wars was in the 70's (and later ofcourse).

the matrix is diffintly the better of the two but star wars has been around for ages and is a classic. I hope the matrix will last like that (it certainly should!)

I think it already has. No doubt, the best movie of this time. Also, they both had limited budgets for the first ones, yet somehow seemed to be the best movies ever made. Proves that all this technology isn't really worth sh*t without the power of the mind, eh?

Yet, many years of fanatism will have to pass for the Matrix to get even close to the reputation Star Wars has. But the Matrix is well on its way, especially with such a brilliant sequel.
But as I think of classic quotes like "The force is with you" and "I am your father" and "I have a bad feeling about this", I think the Matrix still has a long way to go. Which doesn't mean the film hasn't got the potential.

Oh, but there are so many quotes from the matrix, already. You're opinion is respected, but I still think it will be a classic. Remember that star wars had a few dead areas, too but is still good overall.

No no...i am preety good at english but my ears simply can`t stand a comparison between the great Matrix and... star wars :confused:

I wasn't comparing the stories, you can't do that. Just the parallels with the ways they were made and the circumstances surrounding the movies, not the stories and why each has risen to such levels of greatness, each within it's own time. blah blah blah...

Got to agree that Star Wars, though I saw the original 29 times before my 10th birthday SUCKS compared to The Matrix, if for no other reason than this: George Lucas's writing ability is TERRIBLE (especially in StarWars) when it comes to characters, their depth (or lack of it) and thier interaction.

My mind goes back to a scene when harrison Ford yelled..."Yipeeeee!

Immediately following, he looked up disgusted and said "Who writes this 'doodie'?!" (He didn't really use the word "doodie" though.

The plot was fantastic, the special effects, for the time, were awesome...the writing and lack of character depth were pathetic.

As I said the Matrix may become a classic (which is very probable)). But the quotes I gave are quotes that are already accepted and established in the whole globe and almost everyone knows what you are talking of when you use one of these quotes.

You are correct about the quotes...now that I think about it, I think the simplicity of the Star Wars plat and characters made it easier for those lines and scenes to stand out.

The average person who watches first two Matrix movies, are so floored by the twists and questions that they probably have to watch it a few more times to really remember the lines...just a thought.

Then we also have the classic Star Wars sound track which just says it all.
Besides, I'm talking about the classic EpisodeIV,VandVI now. Not about one and two, because whatever you call those, you cannot call them classic in any way.:(

are not what I would consider to be classics, either. A little lame for following up on a legend. I think he did better with the primitive tools he had in the 70's. They're just fill ins for the fans who want the whole story and a big money maker for George. A big disappointment!

Indeed. Where the trilogy has this threatening sphere( for example when Vader enters a place), the new ones have no sphere at all. It just doesn't feel right with them. :(

Hmmm...i have to disagree with u on that

The Star Wars series had a great deal of potential but I think that Lucas's vision go clouded by too many desires for box office draw. Once things like the Ewoks and Jar Jar started showing up, the integrity of the story suffered severe set backs (IMHO).

I understand that Lucas had at least the concept for all 7 episodes in his head before ever even starting episode IV - similarly, I have heard that the W-bros had all three episodes in mind when starting M1 - or at least had the concepts.

I actually enjoyed episodes I & II but not for the characters (which I found dull) or the story lines (which seemed redundant) - but because of the political and economical systems they revealed that demonstrated the infrastructure and politics which led to IV/Star Wars. I guess I have always been more intrigued with how things work moreso than simply how they turn out. Or should I say, [I]why[I] things work and/or why they turn out they way they do?

As far as the cult following that Matrix receives, it seems to draw on a lot of the same kind of following that Blade Runner (Do androids dream of electric sheep?) received from a lot of the same types of people.

I also think some of the cult draw for Matrix if not intentional is spawned from the very genres that led to it's inception. The surreal nature of Anime, the macabre of the comic book genre. The dark natured trend of modern revolutionary youth culture such as the retro punk, the gothic scene, trench coat mafia, etc.

I hear tell some theaters are starting to see people showing up in overcoats and fetish vinyl cat suits and some communities have midnight showings on weekends. What's next? Bringing bags of noodles, boxes of "tasty wheat" and plastic spoons to be thrown at the screen at various times of the movie?

KL

Originally posted by k-lynn
I actually enjoyed episodes I & II but not for the characters (which I found dull) or the story lines (which seemed redundant) - but because of the political and economical systems they revealed that demonstrated the infrastructure and politics which led to IV/Star Wars. I guess I have always been more intrigued with how things work moreso than simply how they turn out. Or should I say, [I]why[I] things work and/or why they turn out they way they do?

KL

Yeah, that's what I liked about them, too. Well put.