Is it just me or no charector deveoplment

Ok ok so weve all seen the Martix 1 and noticed how Neo was just a computer geek that no idea what the matrix is. and then he meets Morpheus and all that awsome stuff later he Superfly guy who flys away. Now we go to see the matrix 2 and Neo barley changes at all from the beggining. Is it just me or am I right!?

Originally posted by Neo's_Son
Ok ok so weve all seen the Martix 1 and noticed how Neo was just a computer geek that no idea what the matrix is. and then he meets Morpheus and all that awsome stuff later he Superfly guy who flys away. Now we go to see the matrix 2 and Neo barley changes at all from the beggining. Is it just me or am I right!?


I'll admit, the character development in this story could be a lot better. But you have to realize it's mainly an action film, you know? And they're trying to pack a great deal into these action films.

Yea i also was watching the movie Matrix 2 with my Uncle and he said "well he's the One right he can just fly away without fighting"
then i said " he could but then it wouldnt be a movie would it"

So its all good but i really really liked the first one in the charector devolpment because u were like WHOA! when Neo stopped the Bullets. but when he Stopped the Sentinals it wasnt all that wonderfull.

But thats just my idea

Maybe you're even right with Neo but the other characters have developed a lot. Trinity for example or Smith, who gets more emotions and is able to copy himself. The only one from which I would say, that he hasn't developed his character is Morpheus. Niobe is also a character, that will (I'm sure) develop in M3 and Popper, of course.;)

I never really thought of that. the other charectores really devolp in the 2nd one but it also seems that they dont in the first one!

Because Neo is learning from them so The other charectores are teaching him all the stuff and that they know everything about the Matrix.


Then we go and see the matrix reloaded and Neo knows everything!


So what do u guys think?

I think he did change a bit but even if he did not, it was only six months l8er.

Just like the fight scene at the merovingian, Neo could probably just stand still...and scramble up his enemies code...so they die without neo ever touching him. he can practically do anything. but then it wouldnt be a movie if he didnt fight :)

Most of the characters in the films don't seem to have much of a back story. I mean, they delve into their stuff just a little bit, and there's really no reason for them to get into their backstories too much, so it's acceptable. M1 did center around Anderson realizing he was The One, kind of coming into his own. There was little to no development behind Neo and Trinity's love. There was little to no development behind virtually all of the characters. BUT again, it's a pretty intense action film, and that tends to distract us from getting to know the characters anyway.

Personally, i feel that i understand most all of the characters. At the same time, i don't exactly understand them, or feel for them, you know? It probably has to do with the fact that the main story is, The Matrix is not real. So there's no point to delving into a character history based in that world.

I think, considering what kind of films these are, we get enough information on these characters to understand them enough.

Originally posted by Neo's_Son
Ok ok so weve all seen the Martix 1 and noticed how Neo was just a computer geek that no idea what the matrix is. and then he meets Morpheus and all that awsome stuff later he Superfly guy who flys away. Now we go to see the matrix 2 and Neo barley changes at all from the beggining. Is it just me or am I right!?

Um I think that the character developement could be more looked into but it's an action film and all people really care is for the action not if the character has brown eyes or can speak many different languages!!

In Reloaded they aren't doing much, i agree, but there's happened a lot before and after the movie. We don't know what happened in the 6 months before Reloaded, the liberation of minds could give us some very interesting footage. The time after the movie (aka Revolutions) there also can happen a lot more.
Reloaded is about furfilling the prophecy (and the discovery that it's just a system of control) in Revolutions the real fireworks begin.
Agents are no longer a threat, no not to Morpheus. But to the others they're even more dangerous (hmmm, upgrades). The W bro made a very good move with the fact that they let Neo fly over 500 miles, in the time he is flying we see the highway scene, then the Agents are a significant threat to Morpheus, Trinity and the Keymaker.

i was exaggerating when i said they arent a threat. of course they pose some sort of a threat, but not like in m1. they had such power, such presence. when neo stood up to an agent, it was a HUGE deal. nobody's ever done it before. that fight, in the subway, hade more suspense than any fight in m2. the cgi wasnt as good, but the meaning and emotion was much greater.

morpheus can at least stand his ground in m2, to an "upgrade agent" at that. in m1, he got the crap beaten out of him by a normal agent, smith. the agetns arent as "cool" as they were in m1, lets leave it at that.

The Agents still are a threat, but the W bro showed them with purpose as harmless. Neo's kicking three Agents around, they loose. Morpheus fights an upgraded Agent and somehow he doesn't loose that much as in m1, where he got his head slammed on a toiletseat (autsch).
The Agents are still a threat, but it isn't shown in m2, because there are other problems and greater threats along the way:
Smith and his clonebuddies, Merovingian and his men (nobody ever saw The Merovingian fight, but I believe that he is not the leader of all the rogue programs for nothing, perhaps he is very strong, don't know) the Twins are 2 rogue programs, like the vampires. Seraph, the computerprogram is strong.
The attention has shifted from the Agents to other villains. Thatsway Agents are now shown as losers, my guess

Originally posted by i c 3 d r p z
when neo stood up to an agent, it was a HUGE deal. nobody's ever done it before.

I always wondered:
If it was never done before (if no-one stood up against an agent before), then how did the previous ones survive long enough to reach the source?

well of course the previous ones did. not that morpheus or neo would know anything about that.

I think that Reloaded and Revolutions were intended to be 1 movie. That means that Reloaded is the beginning of a 5 hour movie! Everything is develoiping very slowly because that is how long movie.
Sure, Neo is "The One", he can just fly away, but people are missing the point, Neo still isn't aware of his full ability. In the beginning of the movie he says he has no idea what to do, so him and the rest of the humans have to rely on the Oracle, which means that even though he is "The One" he is still controlled by the Matrix and its programs. When the movie ends, Neo realizes this and tells Morpheus that the prophecy is false, he realizes that control over the humans and now is going to try and change it. That is going to be one of the major developments in Revolutions.

Since we have an insight in Zion, Morpheus has developed into, you could say, a religious extremist. I do not view him the same way as I did in M1, because of the others in Zion who do not "believe." Now that the prophecy is considered false, what is Morpheus going to do? Will he still believe? That will most certainly be developed in Revolutions.

Theres more but do you see how this is just the beginning? Just like M1, up until Neo was freed from the Matrix, you had no idea what was going on, and I am sure the Bros are using that same formula for these movies, in Reloaded you are getting bits and pieces of info and in the end, it will all come together. I am sure of it.

expect the character development in M3 since M2 and M3 are really just a big movie they havent got to where theres much character development yet. I expect neo to kill anyone who comes in his path without moving a muscle and maybe like lifting buildings up with his mind and hitting Smiths with it.

Originally posted by platniumg3
I think that Reloaded and Revolutions were intended to be 1 movie. That means that Reloaded is the beginning of a 5 hour movie! Everything is develoiping very slowly because that is how long movie.
Sure, Neo is "The One", he can just fly away, but people are missing the point, Neo still isn't aware of his full ability.

oops, you pretty much said the same thing I said in my last post. I just now read yours