MacLeod
Hey guys take some time to help me wif what I'm still struggling wif as the most excruciating part of Matrix Reloaded-the party scene. What the hell did it mean, why was it there and was it negative/positive? My opinion is seriously negative:In fact I feel the movie was partly to examine the flaws of the human race and of faith...
Examine the various scenes in Zion. The huge massed crowds awaiting their saviour Neo; the Argument in the Council Chambers for example. In the latter I really can't say I blame Lock(e) for rolling his eyeballs when the Council asked for 2 captains to help find the Neb. What were the chances they would really make a difference? Of course we knew they'd work:the good guys always win in a movie. But to them it sure didn't feel like a story-they were fighting for their very survival as the last remnants of a free human race! Also note how the Council is often as divided on opinion as their severely outlandish clothes were varied-is there so much a meaning in holding on to racial/religious distinctions when here they need so much to be united? I remember stories like Star Trek where humanity united as one common race after World War 3 realizing that they couldn't afford to dwell on culture differences that could drive them to kill each other or how in Battletech the various factions within Kerensky's exodus agreed to forget their differences and work as a united set of clans...or so they were supposed to. That's no longer the point though.
The scene itself was the ultimate crux:on one hand we have the machines doggedly drilling down to Zion united with a single purpose and priority:its destruction. On the other at the same exact moments we have Morpheus telling everybody WE'RE STILL HERE!!! Like that fact was gonna help against 250,000 Sentinels. Not only that, they engage in everything but a Roman orgy for the next 5 minutes at least, on screen...getting really down and dirty with each other and well, becoming this sea of flesh and suggestive moments with a few people bobbing in an out with obvious expressions-all this while machines were drilling down for them? I'm sure the timing wasn't a coincidence. It was, to me, obviously to give us an uneasy feeling of despair...after all we all know where all the decadence and orgies got the Roman Empire to. Still concurrently we have Neo and Trinity and I must say this was surprisingly uplifting. They purposely set themselves apart from the rest and yeah well though it was sex it wasn't jus carnal. It somehow gave me a feeling that these two by being so different were the ones that were going to make a difference in the end, not the pitiful masses in the caverns. Notice also that people like Morpheus Locke and Niobe weren't featured suggesting that maybe they also didn't take part.
Lastly this apparent disunity within humanity in even the worst situations shows in Morpheus's role in the film. Notice how he seems to waste everyone's time in the opening scene in the sewers; their exasperated expressions in each speech. Even the game Enter the Matrix had lines like "Everyone's here but the Neb...Figures; anything for an Entrance." Doesn't he sound like a pain in the butt now rather than the monumental figure in M1? Sure faith means alot but seriously if someone like him in real life comes up to you with a faith as strange and unfounded like his...oh say someone from Heaven's Gate I'd bet you'd be outta there in a hurry. This is confirmed in Morpheus's defiant then defeated look at the end ("...No. I don't believe you...")
Well now I've given my admittedly fatalistic view. Anybody out there who didn't take any religious offense-I didn't mean any-or jus feels the same way I do; could you give your opinions? I hope I'm not alone in asking these questions; I'm sure this view was what the W bros must have meant in putting those scenes in...
Examine the various scenes in Zion. The huge massed crowds awaiting their saviour Neo; the Argument in the Council Chambers for example. In the latter I really can't say I blame Lock(e) for rolling his eyeballs when the Council asked for 2 captains to help find the Neb. What were the chances they would really make a difference? Of course we knew they'd work:the good guys always win in a movie. But to them it sure didn't feel like a story-they were fighting for their very survival as the last remnants of a free human race! Also note how the Council is often as divided on opinion as their severely outlandish clothes were varied-is there so much a meaning in holding on to racial/religious distinctions when here they need so much to be united? I remember stories like Star Trek where humanity united as one common race after World War 3 realizing that they couldn't afford to dwell on culture differences that could drive them to kill each other or how in Battletech the various factions within Kerensky's exodus agreed to forget their differences and work as a united set of clans...or so they were supposed to. That's no longer the point though.
The scene itself was the ultimate crux:on one hand we have the machines doggedly drilling down to Zion united with a single purpose and priority:its destruction. On the other at the same exact moments we have Morpheus telling everybody WE'RE STILL HERE!!! Like that fact was gonna help against 250,000 Sentinels. Not only that, they engage in everything but a Roman orgy for the next 5 minutes at least, on screen...getting really down and dirty with each other and well, becoming this sea of flesh and suggestive moments with a few people bobbing in an out with obvious expressions-all this while machines were drilling down for them? I'm sure the timing wasn't a coincidence. It was, to me, obviously to give us an uneasy feeling of despair...after all we all know where all the decadence and orgies got the Roman Empire to. Still concurrently we have Neo and Trinity and I must say this was surprisingly uplifting. They purposely set themselves apart from the rest and yeah well though it was sex it wasn't jus carnal. It somehow gave me a feeling that these two by being so different were the ones that were going to make a difference in the end, not the pitiful masses in the caverns. Notice also that people like Morpheus Locke and Niobe weren't featured suggesting that maybe they also didn't take part.
Lastly this apparent disunity within humanity in even the worst situations shows in Morpheus's role in the film. Notice how he seems to waste everyone's time in the opening scene in the sewers; their exasperated expressions in each speech. Even the game Enter the Matrix had lines like "Everyone's here but the Neb...Figures; anything for an Entrance." Doesn't he sound like a pain in the butt now rather than the monumental figure in M1? Sure faith means alot but seriously if someone like him in real life comes up to you with a faith as strange and unfounded like his...oh say someone from Heaven's Gate I'd bet you'd be outta there in a hurry. This is confirmed in Morpheus's defiant then defeated look at the end ("...No. I don't believe you...")
Well now I've given my admittedly fatalistic view. Anybody out there who didn't take any religious offense-I didn't mean any-or jus feels the same way I do; could you give your opinions? I hope I'm not alone in asking these questions; I'm sure this view was what the W bros must have meant in putting those scenes in...