My take on what is going on here.

This is my first post. After reading some rediculous ideas, i was prompted to register and post.

It took me awhile to comprehend the ending, but whatever.

The matrix is constantly testing itself, to achieve perfection. If neo reaches the architect, the matrix is flawed, and they use his code to adjust the matrix. His "purpose" to the machines, is to help them anticipate and code for emotion. The oracle did not give him any power, that is absurd. The oracle is a program designed to study the intangible aspects of humanity.

Now, neo says what the hell is going on at the end. He says the machines can not code for CHOICE, or something to that extent. The past 5 "one's" took the other door. So, the machines use the "one's" for perfection, but yet again, human emotion has kicked in and neo took the door not anticipated. The architect made it sound like the only way neo could save trinity was to take the other door and rebuild zion with selected people (trinity included). however, neo was able to save her the other way, which came unexpected.

the machines allow zion to exist in order to test themselves, as previously mentioned. if the humans can get to the architect, the matrix is flawed.

Now, I suppose the most important question is what is going to happen? Neo seems to have his powers now in the real world, and agent smith has secretly escaped the matrix.

there are 2 ways to take neos new powers. one is that there is a matrix within a matrix. this is why the machines allow zion to exist, it is under their control. the other way to take it is that the prophecy is infact, true, and neo is the ONE.

it is hard to say which one is correct. i personally believe the second option, mainly because of the last words of the architect. He basically says hope is false, or something like that, and more importantly that they will not meet again. running with this theme of "unexpected human emotion," neo is able to again suprise the machines. the idea of a matrix within a matrix is possible. this could be why the machines allow zion to exist, because zion is under their control. but if this were true, that would mean that there is no real human threat at all, which would make no sense. to escape, you need humans on the "outside."

as for smith, he has simply taken over that body. what is real in the matrix, is real to the mind. smith answered the phone, and his code translated into that current mind. he is of course the one who sabotaged, blah blah.

why is neo in a coma? his new power took him by suprise. he was not ready. just like when neo was prepping him to exit the matrix, and to re-enter the matrix, he had to be ready. im sure he will heal, as neo is shown fighting in the preview for Revolutions. I do not believe smith is of any real importance, well at least he is currently not the one causing confusion or much debate.

let me know other factors that influence the the debate between the 2 theories.

to finish, i just have to say that the italian broad is amazing.

--Zzz

Welcome to the board, first off. Nice post.

I am going to disagree with a point first:
because zion is under their control. but if this were true, that would mean that there is no real human threat at all, which would make no sense. to escape, you need humans on the "outside."

Imagine if there is a matrix in a matrix, if Zion is the outer layer of the matrix, it makes great sense. Tell people about a prophecy in the inner layer, the humans fight to get to that aspired to outer layer, not knowing it's an outer layer. I think that's why it isn't noticed by the humans, they had faith that Zion was their homeland.

For the AI, this is great. The discontents on the inner layer are happy on the outer layer, living as rebels, but actually still producing heat hardwired to the system.

That makes whomever detects that outer layer a HUGE threat, given that it could take that system down. 'Huge #s of crops lost, people unable to accept the program..' kind of reaction.

I believe in Matrix in matrix, we'll see how it works out.

-WC-

Very interesting!

I think I agree that Zion is not part of the Matrix because then there would be no human threat.
I also believe that because of the past "Ones" they (the machines) anticipated what Neo would do. But, then he chose the other door. This is going to make it really sticky for the machines because he also saved Trinity.

As for Smith, I think he doesn't understand that he is now out of the Matrix and is "human".(Of course, he can plug in when he wants.) Thus, if Zion is destroyed, he will be as well. He doesn't really fit in either world anymore.

Those are my thoughts.

that is a very thoughtful post.

i agree with you that Neo is the actual ONE not just another the one, like the others, or was that not hat you meant?

i think neo realises that he is actually the ONe, that is why he noticed that he could 'feel them' (the sentinels) and chose the 'wrong' door, because he can.

i rekon (not to good on spellings) that saving trinity was completely unexpected and i think ur right about the oracle thing, perhaps that is why the machines 'attacked' Zion so rapidly after the 'mishap' cos weren't they meant to be slower?

toodle pip!

i totally agree. i mean with the part about the italian broad.

Well, there is no such thing as "The wrong door." The Architect already knew which door Neo was going to take because of his fate.

Also, how does the Architect intent to destroy Zion? Unless of course if this MIAM theory is true...

um, I'm pretty sure he's going to use 250,000 machines to destroy zion...

Ya, i think thats what they said, something like, 250,000

Of course it could be that all our heros are AI, trying to
evolve their circuited minds beyond their primary makeup into a
more human existence (see Matriculated). The only pattern of life
they know is that of their creator, the human.

It would be hilarious to find out that the Matrix is nothing more
than a computer in the form of a paperweight sitting on the desk
of its creator, designed to keep AI in check. Kinda has a 2001
Monolith feel to it ;)