Matriculated

I don't know if I'm supposed to know this or not, but does anybody really understand the 9th episode called "Matriculated" on the Animatrix? I don't really understand all of it.

Ya, i didnt get it either.

I think it shows that the machines can live with the humans, and protect them, they just need to choose to join the humans..

well those people are kind to machines, and try to make them defect to their side (which succeeded before, since they have machines working for them) So that robot that follows that woman is plugged in into some sort of Construct. And the humans play with the Robots mind, try to make it feel comfortable in a strange environment. They hope that the machine will become friendly to them, they give it a choice. Then the other machines come and kill al those people, while the other robot is trying to decide which ones to fight for, so he finally chooses the human side, but by then it is too late. so he plugs in the woman to the construct, and then she dies too... really a sad story :'(

ooooooohhh! it all makes sense now!! thanks

I think basically the people stun the machines, hook them up, and try to show them how humans are helpful. Remember when those branch like things were trying to get the machine and the human tried to help the machine and the machine excepted his help and started to like humans because they were helping him...but that is my theory. Hope it helps! ^_^

machines may have the same state of consciousness as the humans, just that humans are restricted to flesh and machines seem to be limitless.

the point of matriculated was to show two physically different beings with a similar state of consciousness can co-exist. but hey, the humans "are the architecht to their own demise".



and therefore i am Deity
- Fallen Deity

what the hell was that little squirel/monkey thing in that jar?

I think Matriculated serves to show the 2 major concepts in Matrix/Reloaded..

1) Choice : Humans above all makes that important distinction form Machines in allowing (and being allowed) choice. They choose to allow machine to join them rtaher than forced/programmed

2) Purpose : unfortunately Machines only have a purpose and like Smith though freed from system, still pursues Neo ("purpose that defines us") the Machine though "brainwashed" to help humans, still has purpose to get to that human girl...

I thought the point of Matriculated was to show that Machines could be accepting of humans, but the reverse was impossible. The machine tried to reconnect with that woman (don't know her name, if she has one...) through the only way which it knew, through the matrix. It reached out to her, and tried to befriend her, but she becomes scared.... And dies a second later.

On another note, if humans could be accepting of machines, that was a perfect way to do it. I think someone else might have said this, I'm not sure.... The machine was given the illusion of choice. It thought that it was making its own choices, but it was not. When there was that cube and a hole in the middle of the floor, in the shape of the cube, 99.9% of the time, the person/machine/whatever will put the cube in the hole. It is just your nature. You think you are making a choice, but the choice was already made for you. You are just carrying it out.

I didn't really like this film, itself, but it illustrated the ideas behind the movie very well.

I'm not sure why... but this is my favorite episode. When I think back on all nine episodes, this one sticks out like sore thumb and I love it. My reasons probably have to do with the little baby monkey creature and the virtual reality. When I've figured it out, I'll be back.

They were tricking the machine, in making a choice because the choice was already made for the machine. But it was to benefit the humans, so they could have atleast a chance to fight against the machines. But that wasn't enough, the humans died n left one machine alive. Now the question, will the machine unplug himself n fight for what he thought was his choice or not????

I really liked this episode cuz I thought it was really sweet how the machine was tryin to protect that woman....I forgot if he wa sucessful or not....but I really like how the artists and cartoonists used such beautiful,bright, colors.....


Neo'sTrinity24 :cool:

That's a very good question Niva :) ...but I think he's going to unplug himself and help join in the fight to destroy the machines...or maybe the humans will have him help protect Zion.....who knows?



Neo'sTrinity24:cool:

I always look forward to seeing this episode cause I truely didn't understand why they devised such a looney virtual reality for the machine. It seemed the machine was pretty comfortable in an uncomfortable situation. But when the tables were turned and that girl died and the machine plugged into her, she realized that she was dead and freaked out. That's what freaked me out the most.

How did the machine exit the construct? Earlier, the man lifts the lever and the people woke up. Don't you need an operator?

I believe the machine and the woman who was plugged back in by the machine don't come out. The machine and her. That's what it came down too. She had begged for its help when the sentinals attacked them, however, since she was the most reluctant of the lot of them to do these experiments, she couldn't accept being with him inside the construct. What happens next is just my thoughts, She dies within the construct and the machine justs frets away within it.

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I beleive it's purpouse is to show us that machines and humans can co-exist.

I love Matriculated! I think the machine finally based its decision on how cruelly the humans were being treated and by how kindly they had treated it. What the machine didn't realize was that the humans were addicting it to the matrix through the ability to feel, and in order to keep the matrix it needs humans. I think that in the end when the machine did make its decision and fought for the humans, saving the girl and replugged itself and the girl in, it wanted back in. Think about it, a machine that wants, i mean why else would it plug back in after it switched. The machine had even if for a brief instant experienced a feeling . . . and it wanted more. I am having difficulty thinking of evidence to back any of this up but I will continue with my thoughts. I also think the machine will develop other feelings, again, inside the matrix, becoming more and more human while never quite making it. It would be nice to see a sequel to matriculated . . . if my theory is correct. Anyway, I tried to keep this short, if this doesn't make sense or if i missed something tell me.

P.S. Be gentle . . . I bruise easily. lol

I think Matriculated was the beginning of AI where that last machine who helped that woman because he saw her earlier trying to help him and I think the machine had feelings toward her...

I totally agree with u
SullenGiRLaFa. I have to say that, that was my favorite episode.

Originally posted by Niva
I totally agree with u
SullenGiRLaFa. I have to say that, that was my favorite episode.

I didn't really like that episode... I found it to be way abstract for anime (its animATRIX i expected it to be somewhat anime). But it was the oddest one to me no offense =p... I like the plot line for the detective story, and the portrail (sp?) wasn't so bad.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, so I respect urs. The detective story was good, I liked that Trinity was in it, n that Carrie-Ann was the voice.

Originally posted by Niva
Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, so I respect urs. The detective story was good, I liked that Trinity was in it, n that Carrie-Ann was the voice.

yeah Carrie-Ann Moss was the voice in many of them...compared to Keanu Reeves...he was like in only one =***(

"the problem is choice..."

but do the machines have choice ?
they only can be programmed...

but that how's the second ren. bagan.. they choose to be free...

the problem is choice if u r a machine more than a human..
and that's wat keeps me thinking that neo maybe a machine!

Originally posted by psy
"the problem is choice..."

but do the machines have choice ?
they only can be programmed...

but that how's the second ren. bagan.. they choose to be free...

the problem is choice if u r a machine more than a human..
and that's wat keeps me thinking that neo maybe a machine!

umm what about N O. second ren. was more like the start of AI.

I think it was about trying to get the Machines to side with the humans. They were talking about all the other machines they had turned and that to do so they only had to show them the choice, their world, and the better world was obiosuly the humans, how ironic it sounds. The girl at the end though, she died? i thought like the machine raped her or something because she starts getting all scared like.

mhhh I think Matriculated is the hardest to understand episode in the Animatrix.

I didnt like it much, i think it was too long.
what many of you say (may be true) is that the girl died, I think she just remained knocked out, then when she realized she was in the program she freaked out because she knew that she would be trapped in there forever.

freaky episode

Well she (the girl) did die in the end and in a program she did. It was just an ironical twitch in the end of the episode.

Maybe in Matriculated the last humans died ... the converted machine is the only one left . It could convert other machines more easily than the humans, because it knows how machines think. So it ends up in: Machines versus Machines (no humans left) and the bad machines win and plug the good machines with human soul into a huge Program ... THE MATRIX
..To control them, let them live out their humanity, let them think they are humans and to study them !!!!!


I think it's a cool theory :)

Yeah, it's definitely a cool idea!

matriculate was makin me trip out lol. all those bright colors and crap... but it was definetly confusing, but i think it shows that machines can learn to trust humans

Originally posted by GuitarmanESP
Maybe in Matriculated the last humans died ... the converted machine is the only one left . It could convert other machines more easily than the humans, because it knows how machines think. So it ends up in: Machines versus Machines (no humans left) and the bad machines win and plug the good machines with human soul into a huge Program ... THE MATRIX
..To control them, let them live out their humanity, let them think they are humans and to study them !!!!!


I think it's a cool theory :)

Yeah.. thats such a cool theorie.. but humans are also still plugged in?? because where do they get there power else from??
well yah.. i like you idea!

the battery thing would be all fake to have a reason to let the "good" machines think, they are humans ...

i mean think about this ... if the wachowskis do a 4. part in some years and have this idea in their heads, NOBODY will think about this theory, because nobody calculates such a 4. part ... it would be one of the huges endings possible (in my opinion) ... and it would say all in all : if the matrix really exists, WE ARE MACHINES (something completely different, as we think we are) ... that again leads to one of the most important things in our philosophy: we can only hear, smell, taste and feel in the capability of our senses and not beyond ...
everything could be completely different than we think ...

but it is possible isnt it?
think about... aint it weird that you dont know what you are!
that would be crazy :s
****.. this is a weird theory! but a nice 1 ^-^

I just heard, the Wachowskis have enough philosophies/ideas to make the next trilogy :)))))

man, we are just about to find all details (meaning/number-thing (5,23,314=3,14=PI)/and other stuff) and they have the complete 3 next movies in their head ...WOW

I really hope they are going to have the crazy matriculated-fantasy-matrix in one of that new movies ... they have all possibilities

You know what I think ,I think matriculated is after revloutions thats why they were on the surface and all they were doing was trying to make the machine like the humans, thats what matriculated means; to fit in.

Originally posted by Akaro
matriculate was makin me trip out lol. all those bright colors and crap... but it was definetly confusing, but i think it shows that machines can learn to trust humans

Just too bad that the machines learned how to trust humans (even thou we tricked them into it), n girl didn't trust the machine n died when the machine plugged he in. It seemed like she was terrified to see what the machine did.

It was because being plugged in put strain on her heart and She died. The Episode made you feel sympathy for a machine.

i need 2 ask a question that i need 2 ask.
"why do the robots unplugg themselves, and try 2 save the woman that is diying?

I don't think matriculated is meant to make sense. They just pretend it is meant to make sense so they seem clever.