The riddle that can not be solved by SYPHON

syphon

Who said there is a real world?
Who said neo was the one?
Who said there was a one?
Who said there was a matrix?
Who said we were real?
Who said anything was real?
Who never said nothing is anything and anything is nothing then what is life?
what are we?
what is this?
Is there a meaning?
Nobody knows except all of you, you just dont know you know..............yet!

The words of THE SYPHON. Believe.
<3 Keanu <3

i was debating w/ my mom...she says neo could be a computere program...sorta like the smiths...but i dont wat do all u think?
WildCard

God will tell us, when it's our time. :)

-WC-
DesertFox

Originally posted by syphon
Who said there is a real world?


Morpheus, he told Neo so in the first movie.


Who said neo was the one?


Tank maybe??? When Neo saves Trinity from the crashing helicopter in the first movie, someone in the ship says, "He is the one."


Who said there was a one?


Morpheus, Trinity, The Oracle, The Architect, etc.


Who said there was a matrix?


Morpheus, Trinity, The Oracle, The Architect, etc.


Who said we were real?
Who said anything was real?
Who never said nothing is anything and anything is nothing then what is life?
what are we?
what is this?
Is there a meaning?
Nobody knows except all of you, you just dont know you know..............yet!

The words of THE SYPHON. Believe.

Right...
WildCard

But who told those people, and how do they know they are right or the one that told them is right/truthful? :)

-WC-
deadcowdying

Originally posted by <3 Keanu <3
i was debating w/ my mom...she says neo could be a computere program...sorta like the smiths...but i dont wat do all u think?

your mom? my mom doesnt interested even just to see the matrix posters. say my greet to you mom, keanu...
G.A.O.T.U.

Originally posted by syphon

Is there a meaning?

Does there have to be?

G.A.O.T.U.
Cyfre

Originally posted by syphon
Who said there is a real world?
Who said neo was the one?
Who said there was a one?
Who said there was a matrix?
Who said we were real?
Who said anything was real?
Who never said nothing is anything and anything is nothing then what is life?
what are we?
what is this?
Is there a meaning?
Nobody knows except all of you, you just dont know you know..............yet!

The words of THE SYPHON. Believe.

If there wasn't a real world, the entire point of the film would be moot.

Morpheus said Neo is The One. The Architect said Neo is The One. The Oracle said Morpheus would find The One.

Everyone has said there was going to be someone who came to save them all. Everyone, including the programs, including the architect.

Who said there was a matrix? Um.. Well, the movie is called The Matrix...

Who said WE were real? "I think, therefore i am" - Plato

Everything is real and illusion, all at the same time. Your perception makes up your reality.

I'm not even going to answer the rest of your questions, because the line is starting to concern me a little. Sounds like you need to unplug, man.
iamatwin

Originally posted by syphon
Who said there is a real world?
Who said neo was the one?
Who said there was a one?
Who said there was a matrix?
Who said we were real?
Who said anything was real?
Who never said nothing is anything and anything is nothing then what is life?
what are we?
what is this?
Is there a meaning?
Nobody knows except all of you, you just dont know you know..............yet!

The words of THE SYPHON. Believe.


morpheus
morpheus
smith
morpheus
morpheus
dunno
life
human
a forum
no



these r my answers
3nity_twisted

..Syphon... you have lots of free time on your hands don't you...?
TheSpectator

Originally posted by syphon
Who said there is a real world?
Who said neo was the one?
Who said there was a one?
Who said there was a matrix?
Who said we were real?
Who said anything was real?
Who never said nothing is anything and anything is nothing then what is life?
what are we?
what is this?
Is there a meaning?
Nobody knows except all of you, you just dont know you know..............yet!

The words of THE SYPHON. Believe.


There is no Real world, because Zion and the Real World are just another program along side The Matrix.

Neo is not The One, Popper will be. Neo is just paving the way for him.

There never was a One, because The One will end the war. The war is still going on, there was no One. Neo's predecessors got labelled as The One, but are just another form of control - The Architect has spoken.

The Matrix still exist, we know because it has been seen by Morphues, he saw the embryo-fields watching the pure horrifying precision. Furthermore Sentinels where are they coming from?

We are real, because our mind tells us that we are an individual, and individualism makes us real, we exist.

Everything is fake, because we can only identify things through our senses, but senses can tell us things who aren't there - dreams, deja vu and isn't it possible that something green isn't really green at all, but yellow and that our senses intererpret as green, while it's not.

The Matrix is nothing, just a computerprogram (all is nothing), but that computerprogram is our world, where we experience things and live our lives in (nothing is everything)

Life is the period of time in which consciousness dominates basic instincts, the period where we learn and develop. The time in which we reach the 3 meanings of life.

We are a carbon-based lifeform controlled by a semi-dominant consciousness.

What is this? It could be anything, could be nothing.

There are 3 defenite meanings of life, maybe more which vary with every person: reproduction, gain social wealth and the neverending quest for purposes.

What do you think?
UnknownAnomaly

That was heavy man, real deep.
icy toast

Who said there was a God!!!??? o_O
UnknownAnomaly

You don't believe there is a God icy?
icy toast

I didnt say that I said Who said there was a God? o_O
xX Seraph Xx

Hey, what if neo woke up at his computer and it was all a dream?
icy toast

o_O Then it would repeat! The Matrix would be a table of circular motion.
UnknownAnomaly

THat would be freakin insane!
smith_fan

That would be ****in' bad!
TheSpectator

that will show us that causality and purpose rule the Matrix.
that all of Neo's action that occur on his path are meant to be, the people he meet are pre-destined. Everything was meant to be and the machines know that.
They can control Neo's life to force him through a certain door (left/right, we don't which one is right, but the left will be then)
which will instantly start the reloading proces. Neo will do something, what is already meant to be, to complete this proces, and after this he wakes up after his computer with these words on his screen:
TheSpectator

"Wake up, Neo...."
"The Matrix has you..."
"Follow the white rabbit..."

And then it will all start over again. Wow, I'm getting al emotional right now.
UnknownAnomaly

Originally posted by TheSpectator
"Wake up, Neo...."
"The Matrix has you..."
"Follow the white rabbit..."

And then it will all start over again. Wow, I'm getting al emotional right now.
Haha, that is highly doubtful. I don't think thats the way it will end up
icy toast

that would really suck major ass...
UnknownAnomaly

Originally posted by icy toast
that would really suck major ass...
Agreed, hey, your on post number 234, haha, sorry *slaps self*
G.A.O.T.U.

Originally posted by xX Seraph Xx
Hey, what if neo woke up at his computer and it was all a dream?

I am confused why so many think this would be either a surprising or a bad ending.

The Matrix begins with many Alice in Wonderland references. How does "Alice" end? She wakes up.

How does The Wizard or Oz end? Dorothy wakes up.

How does M1 start? Neo is told "Wake up, Neo."

Why would we be surprised if M3 ended by Neo waking up?

I don't think that is how it will all end. But you must really think about what a "revolution" is.

On one hand, a revolution is a revolt against authority. It could suggest the overthrow of the machine world.

On the other hand, a revolution is the acting of going round and round in a circle. This would suggest that there is something that will repeat. Perhaps the whole machine vs. man cycle will repeat in some fashion. If we are to believe Smith and the Architect, there have been numerous matrices. Why shouldn't we expect more.

There are many who have tried to write a third act of Becket's Waiting for Godot. My wife asked me how I would write a third act. I told her that I would make it just like acts 1 and 2. That was the whole point.

G.A.O.T.U.
UnknownAnomaly

The reason its NOT going to be the same as all the other matrix's and ones is because Neo made a different choice. He chose love, he will win.When they refer to the other matrix's and the other ones they are talking about buddhism. Reincarnation, now according to that belief system in order to stop the cycle of reincarnation and join budda in heaven, you must be enlightend in life. Neo is the enlightened one, he will end it all. He has made the choice that no other has!
icy toast

Well like you kinda went thru this entire dream only to know that is exactly how it would end again and it would be circular motion... kinda sucky to me.

Also, to unknown, what you said right there would fit very nicely with my and truths andbackdoors and maclaeds fate argument. Neo was supposed to go to the source but instead he went to trinity.
TheSpectator

the essence of revolution is

1) change
2) continuation

these combined could give us the following idea:
the matrix keeps on existing and turns into a 7th version (continuation)
but instead of machines controlling the Matrix, the control falls into human hands (change)
this could lead to an artificial world, but where the humans are in control and not the machines.
UnknownAnomaly

so true dude. Maybe Neo makes a pact with the machines saying i'll leave them in the matrix if you don't destroy Zion! I read that somwhere.
icy toast

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