Accidents/Trinity/MIAM?

Smoke&Mirrors

Ok I've read heaps of this forum but no seems to have bluntly mentioned the point about the sequence of events leading up to Trinity's (near) 'death'.

She promises not to enter the Matrix, but when Niobi's ship is attacked by the sentinels her team is killed, ship destroyed. It is essential for the backup power to be disabled allowing Neo to visit the Architect so Trinity enters the Matrix thus setting on her path to meet the Agents and (almost) be killed by them, as in Neo's dream or 'sight' of the future. It is her 'set' path or fate within the Matrix that the Oracle and the Architect both know about as being a certainty.

But the only reason Niobi's team dies is because the railing in her ship collapses killing the remaining crew outside the Matrix. This occurs just as Morpheus mentions the word "accident" in his short 'The-prophecy-is-about-to-be-fufilled-speech'

I do not like the MIAM theory. Not one little bit, I think its a cop out on the W brothers part if it turns out to be the case, I think thats what they want everyone to believe. I have read many other peoples theories and I want to believe them, but I am drawn back to this event as being pivotal.

Is the collapse of the railing an 'accident'?

I'd like to postulate that prehaps Bane has something to do with it, but if not then how can this event have been predicted or set within the Matrix... unless its a MIAM :rolleyes:
Rodion

well you can take the stance that nothing happens by accident, but are you also taking the stance that the greatest powers that be are located only in the Matrix. Besides that, should Trinity have not entered, what would Neo's choice have been. Mostl likely what all the other One's had decided. Neo had his Trinity on the other end of the door though, something new to have to account for in his decision, hence, a new decision. Hence a different outcome. Neo has the gift of sight, he's seeing outcomes within the Matrix, from outside the Matrix. His foreshadowing helped prepare him for the decision he would face later. I believe this film, with its stong spiritual references, is making a bold statement that the human race is far greater than that which can deceive our senses. There are gretaer powers at work in us, and in the film, than the processing power of a Matrix.
DesertFox

Originally posted by Smoke&Mirrors
She promises not to enter the Matrix, but when Niobi's ship is attacked by the sentinels her team is killed, ship destroyed. It is essential for the backup power to be disabled allowing Neo to visit the Architect so Trinity enters the Matrix thus setting on her path to meet the Agents and (almost) be killed by them, as in Neo's dream or 'sight' of the future. It is her 'set' path or fate within the Matrix that the Oracle and the Architect both know about as being a certainty.

But the only reason Niobi's team dies is because the railing in her ship collapses killing the remaining crew outside the Matrix. This occurs just as Morpheus mentions the word "accident" in his short 'The-prophecy-is-about-to-be-fufilled-speech'


Um, first, it's not Niobi's ship that is destroyed, it's the other ship, the Icarus, I believe, with the white male captain, that's the ship that is destroyed.

And secondly, I think that crew would have died regardless. Think about it. Part of the crew was in the Matrix, so the operators in the ship can't move the ship, and they can't use the EMP, so they are essentially at the mercy of the sentinals. So either they die because of the sudden removal from the Matrix, or they die from the sentinals. So essentially, there was no choice to be made. Trinity had to go in the Matrix from the start, she just didn't know it yet.
Smoke&Mirrors

Thanks for your replies people,

Rodion, another interesting philisophical comment that didn't exactly answer my question but encompassed the underlying principles and is justified. Although I don't like the idea of introducing another aspect to the story of what we would consider 'supernatural' powers for humans in the real world when we haven't been presented any previous examples...

DesertFox, good point, hadn't though of it that way, good use of mis-direction I spose... I was too caught up by the use of "Its no accident <show breaking rail> we are here today" in Morpheus's speech, but infact it could well be an accident, that, as you said, wouldn't really change the final outcome...

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