Jealousy -> Betrayal -> Salvation

Terikan

Ok, so here is my chain of events theory.

The architect was lying. It was endgame, and he knows the only way to save his precious matrix is to trick neo. He has done this successfully the last few times at least.

First, he messes with neo, telling him that he is the first one to experience love, when in fact, all the previous 'ones' have.

Then, he sets up a situation where the one will have to choose between his loved one and saving zion.

But he won't hand out the option of really saving zion, thus degrading how worthwhile that option would be.

He further convinces neo that he is telling the truth by telling him he cannot save Trinity, when he well knows that he can. By acting like he is trying to talk him out of it, his deception is complete.

If something wouldn't have happenned, then the story would end there. Neo would jack out, and then what? Well, the machines would kill him, like they did the previous ones.

But not this time. Why not?

Here is the chain as I see it.

Neo could feel and stop the machines because of some ability acquired through his interaction with smith. This interaction may have been when smith tried to copy himself over to neo, or it may have been when neo destroyed smith in M1.

If it happened when smith tried to copy, we have to ask, why did that happen.

It happened because neo destroyed smith. But why did he destroy smith?

Because smith had beat him to the mainline, and had shot him full of holes. How was smith able to make it to the mainline first?

Because you'll see in M1 as neo is running up the fire escape, smith looks at the building with a distinct sense of recognition. He had been there before. But when? You might at this time say that he has been through several matrixes, and while I believe this to be the case, I also believe (because of his other behaviors in M1) that he had no access to these memories while plugged into the system.

But we already know why he recognized it. If you look carefully at the beginning of M1, it's the same building that trinity was at when she got caught by the police. If someone thinks differently, let me know. This part is rather controversial. But in any case, how had the cops caught her there?

Because cypher was allowing the line to be traced. Cypher was betraying them. And why was he doing this?

Because he was jealous. He was jealous of the one, and wanted trinity for himself. Yes, it's true that he also just didn't like not being out of the matrix. This betrayal is evident when cypher gives morpheus to the machines.

If cypher had not given morpheus to the machines, then neo would never have gone to save him, and had not gotten shot to death, thus creating a shift from the cycle of the matrix.

Maybe cypher wasn't that bad of a guy. Maybe he was a little depressed, a little dissapointed, and was attracted to trinity. What could push someone over the edge? The oracle. I think it's very possible she said things to him to make him angry about Trinity not loving him, and convinced him that it was his destiny to betray morpheus.

Ok, rambling session over.
Terikan

no one has any thoughts? :eek:
StormCyko

Very good, I buy all of that except the Smith's past memories stuff ;)

And there will always be alot of ambiguity about the architect and his conversation until we see reloaded (maybe) :p
lEgo

this theory does not explain everything : why would a program like the keymaker exist according to this theory? and why are characters like the merovingian included?

but as always : you might be right
Terikan

well, I wasn't meaning to explain all aspects of the movie.

the keymaker wasn't important, he was just there, not much to it (i think)

don't know what is up with the merovingian. he seems to know plenty, telling neo that he doesn't really know why he is there. he also doesn't like the oracle. it's very puzzling.
liondale

I think the keymaker proved very important, but your theory still makes a lot of sense. Will have think more carefully about it before I dare dishing out any arguments though :)
.ruby.

well... i think that all that u said is right.

but the matrix is still very complicated and who knows? mabey neo is really the bad guy or sumthin.:rolleyes:

all im sayin is that nobody really knows whatz gonna happen in the matrix. well, mabey the the ppl who made the movie... but thatz different...
Rodion

the only real flaw I see in that logic is in the explanation of Neo's poweres coming from the connection/overwrite with Smith. Reason being that both Neo's jumping into Smith and Smith's attempt at duplicating himself with Neo had already occurred, Neo had already gone back to the real world afterwards, and the powers he had were not present, the connection to the machines did not evidence itself until after the very previous scene with the architect, after Neo had walked therough the door of light, and therefore only somewhere in Neo's last trip to the Matrix would the catalyst for explaining Neo's new powers in the real world have happened. Also remember that Neo displays his connection with the machines not once, but twice at the end of the movie. The obvious point where he stops the sentinels and also the point where they all are staring at a hologram of the far off sentinels wondering what it was doing, and Neo instinctively knew that they were about the get bombed and they needed to get off. Neo has some new connection in the physical world with the new machines, unless you buy the whole matrix in a matrix theory, which if you look closely at the architects speech, is not really indicated at all, so I don't buy that.

Useless conjecturing sure is fun........I like these movies, damn November needs to get here NOW!
IamMorpheus

Wow amazing theory...
The Proph3cy

...Wow, let's just wait and see...
Terikan

Neo had already gone back to the real world afterwards, and the powers he had were not present

You are right. Well, you are right that he doesn't notice he has the new powers, but he also doesn't come across any squiddies until the end also.
Neo6th

What are you saying?
Terikan

concerning which of my posts?
IamMorpheus

I think he can use his powers because he IS the 'one' I mean if he wasnt how could he use his powers outside of the Matriz

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