24 Hrs to save Zion....?

He told Morpheous and the others that, but who did he get that from ?? This occurred right after he returned to the real world after speaking w/ the Architect and saving Trinity. They asked "Who told you that?" to which he replied "It doesn't matter , I believed him." - Architect made no mention of time - did Neo lie to cover up that he chose the door that led to Zion's doom? Help.....

I'm not sure where Neo got this 24 time limit, but he chose to return back to the Matrix to save Trinity. Zion has already been destroyed - don't forget the scene with tons of Sentinels swarming throughout Zion.

Architect: Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix. Which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

24 hours was never mentioned. Neo returned his anomolous code back to the Matrix instead of to the source. This dangerous code is what will cause the cataclysmic system crash. Perhaps he now knows, as the Oracle told him he can: "You have the sight now, Neo. You are looking at the world without time," much the same as knowing a bomb was coming to take out the Nebuchadnezzer, and knowing the Sentinels were coming.

the architect does say it...and the prophecy says that wwen the 1 reaches the machine mainframe 24 hours left in war..that how he gets it

But if the Matrix I and II has Zion, why it's show but not?? And who is ZION??

Originally posted by redpill1290
the architect does say it...and the prophecy says that wwen the 1 reaches the machine mainframe 24 hours left in war..that how he gets it lol, I've got the transcript right here, and watched the movie again to verify... cough up the statement the Architect made verbatim please. I want to see how deep you'll dig into that rabbit hole.

Originally posted by apt101
Who told you that?" to which he replied "It doesn't matter , I believed him." - Architect made no mention of time - did Neo lie to cover up that he chose the door that led to Zion's doom? Help.....

If I'm not mistaken Neo could have taken the other door and saved the human race... but instead he selected the (somewhat selfish) option for the sake of saving Trinity. Thus, he might have simply lied to Morpheus... Who would admit to deliberately dooming the entire human race?

Obviously this whole 'which door does what' has me completely confused.

EtaPhase: Zion is NOT destroyed yet!! The "slaughter" was at the choke point between the sentinels and the ships sent to battle them, NOT at Zion.

"Zion has already been destroyed - don't forget the scene with tons of Sentinels swarming throughout Zion. "

Speaking of rabbit holes, which one did you dig through to find this one? Because a scene of sentinels swarming Zion was never in The Matrix Reloaded.

When previous anomaleys met the Architecht they al chose to reset the Matrix as it were and choose 23 people to rebuild Zion again. This was because they all felt a certain profound connection with there own species.

But Neos connection with the human race was far more specific in that he loved Trinity, a single person.
So he chose to save her instead of the human race!

So now the matrix cannot be reset, as that was Neos only choice and purpose, and now Zion will be completely wiped out and everyone in the Matrix will die.

I think that the 24 hours is how long till the Sentinals reach Zion, and destroy it as the robots have become quite 'efficiant' at the task, seeing as they have done it 5 times before. Hence why there is a Sentinal sent down for every man women and child, it is quicker and more efficiant.

I dont think that he did lie brcause the architect did say that if he choose the door which led to saving trnrty then all of the human race would be destroyed (including zion).

i'm pretty sure the architect did say that zion would be destroyed in 24 hours, maybe I'm wrong.

Originally posted by Araxis
EtaPhase: Zion is NOT destroyed yet!! The "slaughter" was at the choke point between the sentinels and the ships sent to battle them, NOT at Zion.

"Zion has already been destroyed - don't forget the scene with tons of Sentinels swarming throughout Zion. "

Speaking of rabbit holes, which one did you dig through to find this one? Because a scene of sentinels swarming Zion was never in The Matrix Reloaded. Next time you see the movie, watch closely at the scene of the swarming Sentinels. The area they're in is remarkably similar to the temple area (celebration dance scene). The sentinels appeared to be coming out of the hole at the beginning of the scene, not burrowing into it.

Seeing the movie 3 times, then studying the actual dialogue between the Architect and Neo - I can assure you the Architect DID NOT mention anything about 24 hours. I do believe Neo got this time frame ,if from anywhere, from the Oracle, as mentioned somewhere above in other replies. It just boggles my mind that he said 'It doesnt matter - I believed HIM" when they asked where he got the 24 hours info. Why did he say 'him' - the only 'him' he had talked to prior to that was the Arch.

I've only seen the movie once, and that was the late night show on opening night. But I remember the scene with all of the sentinals swarming around, and I don't remember anything resembling Zion.

I do remember that there were gigantic drills burrowing into the ground and the sentinals were flying all around them, going in and out of the shallow holes that the drills were in.

I don't think that it would be a safe thing to assume that Zion is destroyed. I don't know for sure, but I think that there is still time left.

The Matrix is a film and since when has a film ever conformed to logic or a level of predictability whereby a character in the film ruins a whole trilogy by telling you what's going to happen?? My point is that The Matrix Revolutions will undoubtedly disagree with nearly everything that the Architect said. If the architect is right and Zion along with the whole human race is doomed then seeing the sequel is a waste of time. The film gave little hints that Neo is special and different to previous 'ONES' and so I'm sure that he will somehow save the whole human race despite the architect's foreboding speach. Why would Neo choose to save Trinity as she would surely die along with the rest of human race if Neo believes the architect? This must mean that Neo plans to save the human race and protect Trinity, not one or the other as people here seem to advocate. Another reason why Neo's special nature is more likely to save the day is his original approach and unpredictability: If the architect can't eradicate him and therefore find the reason for his existence then how can he predict his actions? I'm also sure that there will be some dramatic plot twists linking Reloaded to Revolutions (As there was linking The Matrix to Reloaded) and hopefully Smith will play a pivotal role in that!

Jake

I've only seen the movie once (sadly...) I do remember seeing the Sentinels flying around at the end thinking 'That looks like Zion.. could they have made it there already?' Guess we'll have to wait for Revelations to come out to be sure.

As for Neo's '24 hrs'... the Oracle told Neo that he 'has the sight now.' Neo didn't have to be told there would be 24 hours.... he knew

Guess we'll have to wait for Revelations to come out to be sure.

no, we won't. the revolutions trailer shows that it's not destroyed. doi

Originally posted by EtaPhase
Next time you see the movie, watch closely at the scene of the swarming Sentinels. The area they're in is remarkably similar to the temple area (celebration dance scene). The sentinels appeared to be coming out of the hole at the beginning of the scene, not burrowing into it.

nope. you can clearly see that there are drills in the cave and when it comes back to the captain guy (the one that doesn't like morpheus... can't remember his name) he says that they're trying to get in from the ceiling.

Originally posted by Smith's Bane
I've only seen the movie once, and that was the late night show on opening night. But I remember the scene with all of the sentinals swarming around, and I don't remember anything resembling Zion.

I do remember that there were gigantic drills burrowing into the ground and the sentinals were flying all around them, going in and out of the shallow holes that the drills were in.

I don't think that it would be a safe thing to assume that Zion is destroyed. I don't know for sure, but I think that there is still time left.

again... that scene wasn't of the destruction of Zion... but we do find out latter that Zion is destroyed becuase they say they only found one survivor... the agent

Hmmm... I thought Zion was pretty much desctroyed when Neo managed to stop the sentinals by hand. The last scene had him lying in a medical bed and the captain of that ship explaining how the sentinals slaughtered Zion. And how a electromagnetic bomb took out a few of their ships via sabotage. He also mentioned going back to Zion to pick up survivors after the machines left and found only one guy (Agent Smith in human form) who is also lying on a medical bed with Neo.

ok guys - if you haven't seen the movie more than thrice - you cannot comment on what you think you may know. Bain was the lone survivor from an EMP blast that 5 ships were disabled from and whose crews were slaughtered by the machines. Zion is still there, and as Neo said - they have 24 hours in which to save it. The Sentinels have burrowed through to broadcst level where someone sabotaged them and set off tha EMP - this is where ships dock to send people in & out of the Matrix. Get it straight.

sorry if I have a life and the only free time I had to go and see it was last night which is only a week prior to the initial release! Unlike you I have things to do people to see and appearances to keep up!

ok - now i have no life, ok , sure - hope that made you feel better - i am just saying that instead of presuming it may be better to ask as opposed to saying what you think may be right - 1 viewing is not enough o capture all of that info anyway.

well thankyou for clearing it up for me... and the reason i snapped back was because there was no need for you to resond the way you did! obviously there ARE people who haven't seen three times yet.

and not to further bust your balls - but who is monkleton???? See you have read up or see the movie some more before coming in here w/ smart asses like me lurking about - its the Merovingian. haha - sorry. Monkleton- you're funny. Glad you have a life though.