Has anyone noticed. (re: bad reviews of reloaded)

Anyone who seems to dislike reloaded, or give it a bad reviews, doesn't actually understand the plot. Its driving me crazy. I recently watched a tv show where one of the hosts said that they though it was a terrible movie that they couldnt understand and they could only come up with the one question.. why do all the charchaters wear shades. Its ridiculous that these people should even form an opinion about the movie, they obviously are to stupid to even comprehend the plot, which makes you wonder how they could even summon the brainpower to formulate an opinion on the movie.

The more reviews i read, the more i find myself shaking my head in disgust.

I had the same reaction to the local popular morning radio team here in Milwaukee. They were throwing around terms like animatrix, choice, battery, oracle, One, but had no idea how the movie congeals into an immensely deeply philosophical story.

I think this site has some of the most in tune Matrix fans out there. The intelligent attempt to unweave or reverse engineer motive for even the littlest scenes is very impressive.

You take someone whos job is to see 200 movies in a year and ask for their opinion on them - I suppose you have to expect their opinion will be very quick, shallow, assembly line-esque.

What confuses me more is how the pro critics seem to have the biggest crush on deep foreign artsy movies. One comes out of America and they totally miss the boat on it. Ebert was totally ripping on the movie.

Oh well, after I noticed how the radio station had got me mad, I then realized that it's just a movie.

Or is it? :)


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Who cares? The movie is raking in the dosh and WE know the move is about more than shades, batteries, and ones. And so do the millions of other fans who are seeing and loving the movie dispite what some nearsighted reviewer pulls out of his arse. :p

hehe, its more than just a movie. it requires some thinking and use of brainpower, the subplots and undertones are what movies lack these days. ah.. i love the martix. everything about it. i just finished the videogame and now im hanging out for revolutions even more.

i apologise if my posts seem kind of.. err.. all over the place. im how do you put it.. kind of intoxicated :) but i think my apreciation of the matrix is still conveyed appropriately.

let the morons watch their 'enertaining' movies that only stimulate the eyes, it just makes the mind-stimulating matrix all the more exclusive and brilliant for those of us who truly appreciate its genius.

hooray, i say :p

Yes, it's the same over here. A local magazine called it a 2 hour long video game with a conversation near the end you couldn't understand :rolleyes:. My sister went to see it last night and didn't get any of it either.

She liked it though, especially the action parts and nice special effects. I explained it to her in some more detail and she never thought there would be so much underlying detail.

Pretty sad really, it's the best sequel I have ever seen. One that (thinking wise) does even more than the first, at least for me.

Oh well... there's always this website!!!!! YAY! :p

Ignorance can be astounding...I've read reviews and concur that most of those who don't like it just plain don't get it...they watch and say that the action was all there was to the film. If that's all you take from it, you DEFINITELY didn't pay much attention...

It's sort of sad, but I suppose it's the same thing people who have been 'born again' or 'saved' feel when the people they try converting resist or don't get it.

oh well. :)
-WC-

Wildcard: a good point there.

Wait a minute... you saying we all are a bunch of raving religious nutcases?????

just kidding :D

of course we are :p

haha, I know - it's sad, almost to see a richness or deepness of a movie that not everyone does. It is almost a religious experience.

-WC-

I sense potentials amongst the members of this board :D

Originally posted by crahan
I sense potentials amongst the members of this board :D

What? And eat tasty wheat for the rest of my life? ... I'll be working from the inside.

Damn near all the reviews i've read have loved it. and been intelligent. Is this non-anal-retentiveness a Brit thing?

It just shows that the reviewers aren't able to understand the plot and what is happening. They probably just watched it and said, "I can't understand anything!" Thats because they are not devoted and they don't take time to understand it like we do. Now we all understand the plot and enjoy the movie. Anyways I think the Reviews are wrong too.

I think the profession of film critic is a joke. I do not understand why anyone would lend them credence. Entertainment is subjective. If you like it then that is all that matters. If you feel the need to rate a film's success do it by ticket sales.

Matrix Reloaded 1st week: $151 Million (Box Office Record)

The Matrix Relaoded was suppossed to break all Box Office records that Spiderman set the bar for last year....however it did not.....Spiderman is still the reigning champion of the Box Office....but i do believe the reason to be because of the Matrix's "R" rating.......i belive a lot of people went to see the movie, but some were not able to purchase the tickets (cuz of age) the inturn purchase ticket to movies they could get in and then snuck into the Matrix (makes sense huh) for all those under 18.....but in the long run i believe that reloaded is going to gross more funds than any other movie ever made......ow does that sound:D

Remember, there is a derivation of that old saying "those who can't do, teach" that states something to the effect of:

"those who can't act or write a good script, become critics"

With that said, someone commented that it isn't "just" a movie. But it is a movie. It is entertaining on face value. You don't "have" to spend 3 hours a night on www.matrixreloaded.com to appreciate the cinematography, the story telling, the special effects or that action scenes.

Just look at it this way, all those people who are either unable or unwilling to fully understand the matrix are part of the 99.9% the Architect spoke of. The one's Morphius in M1 said would even 'fight to protect it'

KL

Originally posted by Thadeus
The Matrix Relaoded was suppossed to break all Box Office records that Spiderman set the bar for last year....however it did not.....Spiderman is still the reigning champion of the Box Office....but i do believe the reason to be because of the Matrix's "R" rating.......i belive a lot of people went to see the movie, but some were not able to purchase the tickets (cuz of age) the inturn purchase ticket to movies they could get in and then snuck into the Matrix (makes sense huh) for all those under 18.....but in the long run i believe that reloaded is going to gross more funds than any other movie ever made......ow does that sound:D

I thought Matrix Reloaded was more then capible of beating out spider man in box office records, but sadly spider man has one advantage. Younger audience.
Spider man attracted a very broad audience. I'm talking like young kids to probably old adults.
The matrix how ever ( especially with its r-rating in the states ) doesn't quit cater to a younger audience.
Therefore spider man has a larger audience to generate higher ticket sales. =/

i agree
but i also believe that the Matrix Reloaded catered to the younger audience as well as the older generation,
shoot spiderman appealed to both crowds, because of all the older folks that use to collect spiderman comics.....it was just amazing to see it all come to life with todays technology...the same thing is going to happen with the Hulk, fans go way back
and to see the hulk come to life like he was always meant to,
i think it gonna draw, the same kind of crowd that spiderman brought in....

Don't forget too as far as younger viewers go alot of kids might be able to get thier parents to take once maybe even twice but most arent going to take thier kids to a movie more than once. And you know if they could alot of kids would go 3, 4 even more times I have already seen it 4 times and going again on friday. On a movie like spiderman these kids could go as many times as they wanted and didnt need to bring a parent. nough said

I agree with you dejavu_glitch everyone who gave the Matrix bad reveiws didn't quite understand the philosiphy behind it, nor did they understand how possible the Matrix is and how inevitable a virtual reality such as the Matrix is. Most people in fact who didn't like the Matrix also don't understand much about computers. Computers will some day become more intelligent than humans because: 1. Humans can only think 3rd and 2nd dimensionally 2. It takes over one thousand years for humans to double their intelligence, whereas computers only take 18 months. You may not agree with that, but it is true, remember that the Matrix is a very old idea, Plato was one of the first people to discuss a prison similar to the Matrix.
Many people who did like the Matrix still didn't understand it though, at my highschool many students believe that the movie is all about shooting and fighting, but they cease to understand it. If you took all the action and romance out of the Matrix, it would probably still be a good movie, but it would be more of a documentry than a sci fi movie. I would still pay money to see this movie if they didn't have fighting. :cool:

You're quite right although i don't think that they are as stupid as you think just because they don't understand the matrix.

Yep I noticed on other boards, when Reloaded comes up for discussion, sooooo many people don't "get it." I think a good deal of movie goers go to be entertained and don't want to think. It seems like it's getting worse. My in-laws are a prime example of this. They tell us so many movies are "good" and when we watch them they suck. They think they're good based on the fact that they were entertained, not on whether the movie had any real substance.

I will say this: movie critics rarely give good reviews on plot-sequels. Sequels with unrelated storylines (Superman, Harry Potter, Batman, et.al.) fare much better on average. Lord of The Rings got luke-warm reviews if I recall correctly. I've seen some Reloaded reviews that hammered the movie.

Critics don't take the time to tie in the storyline from a plot-sequel's predecessors. Case and point: if anyone watches Reloaded without seeing the first movie, they won't have a clue. Critics (who someone correctly pointed out) watch tons of flicks. Plot-sequels never have a chance to get a good review when the critic doesn't do his homework, or didn't favor the first movie to begin with.

I don't think that they're stupid because they don't understand the Matrix. I think that they are stupid for three good reasons: 1. They don't understand the Matrix 2. They don't want to 3. They are the people who gave the Matrix bad reviews, when they don't even take the time to try and comprehend the trilogy. :cool: