Yeah..feel free to chime in with your own ranting questions. That is why I put this in the Stooges section. I am well aware that in my present state I am on female hormone overload but I would like to ask a question or two to the male population here and see if maybe just maybe I could get an honest, no puffing your chest out, no fake bullshit answer.
Is it just females or do males feel this way too sometimes. Is it possible to love someone so damn much that you would rather slit your wrists, stick your wrists in the toilet, and flush than tell them and risk losing that little bit of control that you feel you have in your life? Is it possible to never get over someone?
I'm not part of the male population, but yeah...there are some people that no matter how hard you try, part of you never gets over. And you never want to tell them because its too hard to talk to them and if you do talk to them, it makes it even harder to get over them. Like a vicious circle. But, sometimes, it just happens that 'pop!'...you're over them. Our brains work in really strange ways.
Sorry. You chicks are on your own. I don't know how you do it.
What's even worse is when you do talk to them and tell them. And what's even worse is when you're the one that they can't get over AND they tell you, constantly. I sure am glad that I don't know anyone whose ever been in that situation or is currently in it. I think the key is to start dating other people and/or start sleeping around. However, the key to that is finding time in between getting up at 5am and busting your ass every day, then coaching water polo for a few hours, and playing in a softball league Friday nights, and squeezing in the rest of your free time trying to get a clothing company off the ground, and finding time to chill with your friends to actually date someone else and/or start sleeping around.
What you're talking about is obsession. And there is healthy and unhealthy obsession. A healthy obsession would be to have posters of your favorite star on your wall, and love them from a distance. An unhealthy obsession would be a stalker of this star. Anyway, my point is that not being able to get over someone is an unhealthy obsession on how your life was with this person. You thought it made you feel good, and therefore you want it again. Humans constantly strive for happiness in one form or another, and obsessions are a result of this quest. Obsessions are also a form of regularity in your own life, to regulate your feelings of angst, anguish, despair, joy, and happiness. You latch onto something that is or has become intangible, and the quest becomes overriding to other things in your life. You want this person, but it didn't work out or something. You don't understand why it didn't work out, so your feelings for this person never dissipate over time, like many normal feelings do.
The analogy was quite heavy, but men and women alike have these same obsessive feelings everyday. I don't believe telling them would relinquish any control in your life. If things are meant to happen, they happen. I'm not going to say everything happens for a reason, because what is the reason for the events in the world? No, I believe the path is already laid, you just have to walk it.
As long as you talk about your feelings with a sympathetic or empathic party, it is very possible to "get over" someone. However, the change must occur within yourself.
Alright, that's enough bullshit from me.
DPD- WORD! I don't know anyone that fits that description either. lol Good luck with 55cal honey...I'm pullin for ya.
Lamer- I see your point and I agree with you on a lot of it but I don't think that your example was the best for this subject. This is a real person that I am talking about (not me mind you) and she is in love with a real person that she lived with, shared things with, etc...not just some fantasy on the screen or a movie star from a distance. What I mean by in my present state you know and you also know me well enough to know that when I get like this my sympathy fades a bit. lol Especially when all she does is sit there and cry and whine about it. She asked me for my advice and I gave it...she has asked several people for their advice and they have given it. That is something that quite frankly I wouldn't want to do not only because I don't want everyone and their dog knowing my personal business but also because you get a lot of different opinion and if you are weak enough to not be able to make up your own mind as you should then it only confuses you further.
My advice to her was that she must first understand what the meaning of the word love is and if she TRUELY believes that this is what she has felt and is feeling then she must then understand that loving someone is alright but it does take two people to feel the same way in order for the desired outcome of being together to happen. If this guy didn't even know what love truely meant then maybe he wasn't capable of giving her what she needed or wanted in the first place. She could have unfortunately been nothing more than a fling or a steady piece of ass to him. She was never completely secure with him and they lived together ffs. Not trusting the one you are sharing your space and your bed with isn't very healthy in my opinion and not truely love. You must feel secure and confident with your partner, trust them as much as you can trust anyone, be open and honest with them, and feel that all I have mentioned has been recipricated back. If the "love" is one sided..chances are that it isn't love. People get lonely, bored, etc. and sometimes confuse all those emotions with love and it just isn't.
What really made me turn the sympathy off more than just my female hormones was the fact that even after all the advice, tears, etc. she still chooses to do nothing about it other than constantly whine. If I knew for a fact that the guy I was living with didn't feel the same way about me that I felt about him...I would not want him to stay. I don't want someone that doesn't want me...point blank. What is the point? If you just don't want to be alone then ok..but be honest about it with yourself and with your partner and say that...hey I am not in love with you but I don't want to be alone either and we are great friends so lets be roomates and fuck buddies. If you get no then you are no worse off than you were before and you can move on and find another one. That kind of relationship if you want to call it one at all is very easy to find. But if you want a real relationship...they take work and feeling on both parts.
My second question was...is it possible to never get over someone? The answer to this question in my opinion is yes it is possible. If you have ever felt true and real love in your lifetime then you would know this. It is possible to move on from your love if for whatever reason it doesn't work out but you can still have love for this person that will never go away. It may just mean that you were not meant to be together at that point in time or it could mean that both of you had some serious issues that you needed to work out on your own before you could be together, or it could just mean that no matter how much you loved eachother you just couldn't make it work for reasons of your own. It doesn't mean that you didn't or don't love that person and quite possibly very much but love doesn't always work the way we want it to and it can leave some pretty nasty scars. It is these scars that can prevent you sometimes from letting in the next person that comes along and is bold enough to want a relationship with you.
Hey hey, my bullshit didn't just say some fantasy. I said obsession can be with someone you had previous relations with but cannot healthily let go of them. Read it, I said it. My example were just throwing out the word obsession so everyone could gather of what I was speaking.
Hey hey, my bullshit didn't just say some fantasy. I said obsession can be with someone you had previous relations with but cannot healthily let go of them. Read it, I said it. My example were just throwing out the word obsession so everyone could gather of what I was speaking.
Don't get your tits in a bunch Nancy boy...all I said was that the example wasn't in MY opinion fitting...I didn't say anything else that you posted. Actually I said I agree with you and then added more of my opinion and thoughts....jeez.
I have no experience in the battlefield of love, so all I'll say is, if I reach that point in my life when I have to let go of the supposed girl of my life, I hope to have the strength to actually do it.
Redundant post over, carry on.
I'm pretty much unexperienced in the battlefield of other people in general, but I know that different people take the same blows differently. I've been frustrated with the roundabout and indirect attitude of people towards their problems and problems in general, but still I don't there's anything a person can do to deserve pain besides what's immoral.
As long as you have it in you, I'd advise to support her, or at least not to get angry at her for not dealing properly. I'm a complete outsider to this situation, but it sounds to me that this anger is the result of frustration which comes from you caring about this person and wanting her to succeed. Help her if you can.
Yeah...I hear ya honey. I did help her and have been there for support from day one. You know me..I won't stop the support. It just gets to me a bit that she keeps bouncing back and forth. She won't make a decision and stick with it. All she does is complain about how bad it is but yet she won't end it and try and move on. She acts as if this is the best she can get because he has her beaten down mentally. She is not happy but she won't leave the relationship. That isn't healthy to me. A relationship should make you happy not hurt you. Sure there will be bad times and you take the good with the bad but when it is all bad and there are no more good times...to me it is time to fold up shop and call it a day. She won't though so I just get a bit tired of hearing the constant whining. If she wants to stay in it then suck it up, quit whining, and accept it as it is. It was her choice.
I know as a guy that I have had a lot of trouble getting over someone, so its not just you girls. And I am still close with said person. However, i would never be slit wrist style, cos I am not that sort of person.
I dont wanna really suggest things about something that I am not involved with, but getting your friend to decide seems to be the best course of action, however you decide to do so. But feel free to ignore my advice
Hope your friend is able to be happy, and that things work out for the best,
Peace out,
Titan
Edit: got rid of a lot. Wasnt really comfortable advising this situation in hindsight
Titan honey..you didn't have to get rid of any of it if you didn't want to. I asked for all input here and it is ok. I will do what I think is best of course but it always helps to hear from others that may have a friend like this or be in that position themselves.
I am there for her as I can be and she is still on the ropes about it all. I honestly feel as if it doesn't matter what I say because she is a needy, codependent personality and a bit naive even though she is older than I am she just hasn't lived as much or gone through the same experiences as I have. I learned the hard way and even though this guy has even beat her up..she still lets him come back. Now I have been in THAT position before and I told her that if they have that in them to begin with and have done it...no amount of I'm sorry it won't happen again will help. There is always a chance that it will and he is not good for her. He needs to get help and her condoning that kind of action isn't helping him either. I did tell her she needs to make a decision and stick with it but to think about everyone involved and what is best for everyone..not just her. She has kids to think about, him as in getting help so he doesn't do this to anyone else either, and herself to think about as well. I just hope she makes the right one and soon.
Thanks to all of you for your input.
The thing you are talking about is pure emotion. Sometimes you will have to let it out. Not by slitting anything. Sometimes it helpes to scream or punch a wall or kick a door in half (Fun to do too). Other times the only thing you need to slit are the connections to said person. Which might be hard. But burning pictures and destroying a connection really help.
Enough of that for now. Here is a blind emotional question from me. Where's the beer? nah just kidding. Why is it, that every time. you say goodbye to someone you die a little. (Okay it is from a song but who cares.)
Blind Ranting would emply that NO emotions are present. Emotions represent the true self, and therefor cannot be blind. What you are asking for is random BS and idiocy.
You really don't like emotions do you?
Well, emotions sometimes do drive us crazy, occasionally to the brink of doing stupid stuff. Makes you feel like your chest might burst out. Sometimes, I would not rather not deal with that.
But then again, everything has a balance, right? Joy and all that. That can be wondrous. Yeah, I'd rather feel something and take the bad with the good, then live a life without emotions. I believe the point of life is negated with the total lack of any emotion.
From personal experience, there is that one time I've managed to block all emotion because I couldn't take it. I can tell you that it was the biggest mistake of my life.
Blind Ranting would emply that NO emotions are present. Emotions represent the true self, and therefor cannot be blind. What you are asking for is random BS and idiocy.
Ah, ok. Did you even read this thread or did you just read the title and try to find something to pick at?
Allow me to clear some things up for you Barney style:
1. The title of the thread is just that...a title.
2. There is such an expression as love is blind...get it?
3. I know the definition of emotions. For example, happy, sad, silly, angry, etc.
4. Ranting is just getting something off of your chest so to speak.
5. I had two questions here and I did put it in the Stooges section for a reason that I stated if you read it.
6. This thread was not about me but about a friend of mine, so I was trying to get other OPINIONS ( not random bullshit) to see what people though about this subject.
7. I do not know why this dead thread was brought back in the first place and the situation has been over for a while, but you are far more intelligent than this.
8. If you would like to contribute more of your opinion you are more than welcome to...that is what this thread was created for.
9. If you CHOOSE to do so, I would suggest that you take your own advice and please read the thread completely first.
Thank you!
1) Thanks sooo much for being super original.
2) Obviously not.
3) e-mo-tion, n.
A mental state that arises spontaneously rather than through conscious effort and is often accompanied by physiological changes.
4) rant, v.
To speak or write in an angry or violent manner.
5) Where the thread resides is hardly the issue. I never mentioned that in my original reply.
6) I have no idea what other people THOUGHT about this project, nor is that the issue, nor do I care.
7) More intel than what? I was wicked drunk when I posted that reply and, as such, found it to be exceptionaly funny. This, of course, is not in accordance with a sober reality.
8) Fuck. No.
9) Please see #8
I am far too lazy and tired right now to post to this reply completely. Plus, most of it was sad moronic bullshit with a hint of bitterness anyway. But most of all because I just don't give a shit.
I will reply to number 8 and 9 though. For someone that says fuck no, you sure took the time to reply again. THAT says it all right there!
Thank you for playing and do have a good evening.
So you actually believe that I read the thread? MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
So you actually believe that I read the thread? MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Pfft...silly little dwarf man, I thought no such thing. You got all your pathetic material from the title as I said in my first reply to you "post"...duh.
Now good day sir..I really am tired. If you wish to continue this little pissing contest you will have to go it alone. Then again, that is your strong point. Kisses Daddy. lol
What 'pissing contest" anyway? You have no contest to offer me. I just come here (the forum) to kill time while I wait for the next FA Cup match to start.
"Blap blap bleebidy bleebidy blah blappity bloop bloop buhdeedee. Well wasn't that fuckin' enlightening." - George Carlin
"Blap blap bleebidy bleebidy blah blappity bloop bloop buhdeedee. Well wasn't that fuckin' enlightening." - George Carlin
LMFAO...too right ya pirate. It isn't worth my time.
Maybe someone will buy that last nothing post he made and where...after a year of being gone. Hahahahaha!
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