another movie anyone

The matrix cost 63 mil. net 312 mil.
The Matrix Reloaded cost 150 mil. net 585 mil.
Matrix Revolutions cost 110 mil. net 303 mil.

1. Why were the returns decreasing?
2. Were the earlier films better?
3. Is there a market for more Matrix?

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fo schizzle there's a market 4 more Matrix! i betcha that the W bros are gonna make a movie based on teh Matrix Online and maybe even put some player's characters in it!

I'd also like to see a prequel, about the origin of the Oracle, the death of the previous One, the freeing of Morpheus's mind and his freeing Trinity ... the launch of the Neb. Cypher and Mouse and everybody being freed. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

They'd have to get different actors though of course.

I'd also like to see a prequel, about the origin of the Oracle, the death of the previous One, the freeing of Morpheus's mind and his freeing Trinity ... the launch of the Neb. Cypher and Mouse and everybody being freed. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Thats probably all you're gonna see. Yes there is some room left to make a possible M4 but not enough to actually do it. Prequels however are "Much" easier to do, and I put that in quotes because if you have enough info that is explaind in the three movies which it was that talked about everything leading up to those points then you've got enough info to make at least one movie showcasing those events. Take Star Wars for example the first three where all about what had happend in the past, the fall of the Jedi and etc. which is why they made the three prequels so they could show the audience.

Now the matrix however wasn't all about what happend in the past because infact the past was nothing like the present because Neo's path was unlike any other so therefore they couldn't show anything that delt with the ones before him because it had no effect on what he did. However having a prequel on the freeing of Morpheus and Trinity and all of the Neb. is possible because not only would that be interesting but you'd also be able to see how morphues was led to believe Neo was infact the one. So I wouldn't be so surprised to see a prequel but don't expect any movies based after M3.

come on. there has to be a reason trinity never got pregnant.

seriosly i bet in the start of the creation of the next matrix.
*if there is one*

There will be neo's son runnin around causin trouble.

and he will inherit all of neo's powers.




ooooorrrrrr not.

Yes I think prequels are the go. Will have to be carefull not to double up on material already in the Animatrix. New actors shouldn't be a problem. There were plenty of good new actors in the 2nd and 3rd movies.

Here is a question I want answered by the prequel:

http://www.matrixmania.com/photopost/data/500/13969MorpheusStong.PNG

eeerm, its a locket given to him by Nyobe berfore she dumped him?

I think there is gonna be a 4th movie because the twins didn't die in the 2nd movie because they were in there ghost forms when they blew up. So I think there is gonna be a 4th movie and there is gonna be a super burly brawl with a twin or 50 twins.

I think there is gonna be a 4th movie because the twins didn't die in the 2nd movie because they were in there ghost forms when they blew up. So I think there is gonna be a 4th movie and there is gonna be a super burly brawl with a twin or 50 twins.

Did you even read that after you wrote it?

The Twins are dead, as i said on another topic, objects can't hurt them but elements can and heat counts. When they got shot they don't flinch. They were screaming in pain when they were on fire even in the phased form.

I think the twins are like agents.

LOL u stole my avatar but it's OK :) its from Kingdom Hearts!!

If you mean they have the ability to RSI jump then the Twins can't do that, all they can do is phase in and out. Even and Exiled Agent doesn't have that ability another, although it did mutate on his Exile.

I know that avatar is from kingdom hearts thats why I got it, I love Kingdom Hearts. And Apollo you don't know that they get hurt by elements because it doesn't say that anywhere in any movie. They could of just been scared because they were way up in the sky. Even if I had there ability I'd be screaming to. So you can't say that stuff. And yes I do think about everything before I go to conclusion.

I know that avatar is from kingdom hearts thats why I got it, I love Kingdom Hearts. And Apollo you don't know that they get hurt by elements because it doesn't say that anywhere in any movie. They could of just been scared because they were way up in the sky. Even if I had there ability I'd be screaming to. So you can't say that stuff. And yes I do think about everything before I go to conclusion.

Everything has a weakness and its pretty clear that there weakness is objects. Just because it doesn't show a picture of them on fire doesn't mean its not fact, you don't see anything saying Neo is dead, but thats a fact. If the twins were to ever return they would have done so by now. Even if they lived the fire, you really think the Agents would let them escape?

And because two characters that have a total of 9 lines in the whole movie leave before its finished doesn't mean there will be another movie. Thats just a crazy idea.

I think Neo, Morpheus and Trinity are gonna be back - and probably in the Matrix Online. Ipso facto, I'd expect the Twins to put in at least a cameo appearance somewhere, sometime in the future.

Agent Smith is gone though, I think.

How can Trinity return?

brought back from the dead. MXO fans have been talking about it. (the possibility) prolly won't happen.

I watched the scene with the twins in step frame and they were blown clear of the flames by the shock wave of the explosion so I don't think they are dead. Trinity is however. I will miss her but bringing her back to life is a bit improbable. It sems that Smith is also dead. It is the only thing that explains the machines calling a cease fire. There is nothing to suggest that Neo is dead. All that happened was that his body went still. He was probably exhausted after the fight and I think he still alive and that leaves lots of possibilities for M4.

I think the reason that the third film was not as popular was becuase of the ending. It makes no sense that the machines would just give up on the destruction of Zion. Sure they were happy that Smith was no longer a potential problem but after all they are still really pissed off about what the humans did to the sky and they all want to live as was inidcated in The Second Renaissance part 1.

So should there be prequels or sequels? There is possibility for both. It is still an open question. My preference is for both.

Neo is dead.

Its a fact everywhere, the first Online chat the Wachowskis were in after Revolutions that was one of the questions they were asked and all they said was Yes.

The first part of the Matrix Online is about the death and search for Neo.

I really really doubt its possible that Trinity would return, the entrei point of her death was to allow Neo to sacrafice himself when he fought Smith, had Trinity lived Neo would never have given up in that fight, if you just bring characters that are dead back then it's all pointless.

Please read my thread on an M4 Its called I'm about to convince you there is gonna be a new matrix. In Fan Fiction.

what, somebody's gonna make a fan film? LOL

Patriot do you have the trench coat that the people wear in kingdom hearts 2? I know where you can get it. Just send me a mail and I will give you the link.

what? whoah!! kk I'll PM you :)

fo schizzle I'd want one of those. but it'd have to be like, reasonably cheap. $300 would be out of my range for that for the forseeable future

Heres a better link then I sent you in that letter. http://www.abbyshot.com/products/l-animestyle.php

um yeah thats double the price I said. there is no way i will ever be able to afford $600 for a completely unnessicary item like that. it would be cool to have though

This thread has gone from a foray into whether there should be another Matrix to a place to share fashion bargain tips. Maybe you guys should pvt suicide blond. She seems to have a sense of fashion

Back to the topic. I will change the question a little. Instead of Is there a market for more Matrix? it is now: Does anybody give a stuff?

LOL yeah we want more Matrix movies.

Here's an interesting idea: perhaps Pixar ought to try to make it. A computer animated Matrix movie, Pixar's first full length serious film. that'd rock if they did it right

Maybe a tv show is the answer and 40 minute long episodes ever week is better than 2 hours every three years

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thinking of the Matrix as a TV show

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i fear a drop in quality if they did that.

course, it could turn out kinda like StarGate did.

Well i don't know if you've noticed but TV effects aren't as bad as they used to be, Enterprise, Smallville, 4400 are just a few that have really great graphics and are weekly shows. The Matrix may have to cut down on all the full CGI parts as that can take a good few months to a year to create but i doubt there would be any Seige like scenes.

How about a Matrix radio play? Or Matrix the Broadway musical?

A radio play would be ... actually cool. :)

But how the crap would you turn the Matrix into a Broadway musical?

Yeah its kinda too dark to have people running around singing.

:LOL:

but perhaps a tragic Shakespearean-style play of some kind?

"Where fore art thou Morpheus?"

yeah i suppose that could work.

LOL

"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players ..."

hahaha

All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely sentient programs.

actually thats not far from the plot of a book and/or book series I'm writing. a Tolkien-esque fantasy world populated by AIs discover the unreality of their world. a battle ensues between those characters that support the System, those that wish to destroy the System and those that are merely seeking after their own personal gain.

Sounds like The Matrix.

yeah only I wrote this before I'd seen the Matrix. the major difference is that there is no "real world" in my story(ies) - or at least not one that the characters can visit. It's all done completely "jacked in" as the Matrix puts it. (the characters in the story don't have a word for it because it's always been that way for them of course)

I've been working on something myself. I was thinking it could be a Matrix sequel but I think that is unlikely. The movies were good but the proffits were decreasing so it would be hard to convince the producers to risk another one. I think I will turn my ideas into a completely seperate story. Good luck with your writing.

yeah its kind of like Tron without the bad acting and the "futuristic" lingo

yeah its kind of like Tron without the bad acting and the "futuristic" lingo

Up until this point, i wanted to see Tron, it's surprisingly hard to get a hold of now. But yeah back in the day those movies had no idea what they were talking about.

Only reason I saw Tron was because it's got a world in Kingdom Hearts II that looked cool. I expect that the Tron section in KH2 will PWN the original movie.

Wasn't Tron one of the first Cyperpunk like movies that the Matrix itself took on board?

From what i've heard of Tron some of it sounds Matrix like.

yeah, the Matrix is like Tron only without the bad acting and the "futuristic" lingo



OK never mind the two movies have nothing whatsoever to do with each other. I mean, they aren't even in the same leauge. I mean, ... if the leauge of animated Disney films exploded ... the Wachowski Brothers wouldn't even hear about it for like, three days

Well, don't really know what to say now...

Didn't they make a second Tron?

they made a video game called "Tron 2.0" and they yacked about making a sequel that was more "about the internet" but they never did

AH thats right it was game, i imagine looking at all that neon would give you a pain in the head after a while.

yeah ... for real. I heard there was a Tron video game for the GBA also

My God the pain that would cause leering at a small screen with all those wierd things

LOL - no really, LOL I laughed out loud for real

I am old enough to remember watching Tron on tv not long after it was released at the cinema. The animation is basic but back then it was some of the first CGI and it looked great. The ship that looks like an upside down U was meant to represent a pixel from a then popular computer game. Another great early VR movie was Brainstorm. The end sequence in that film still looks awsome. They must have had some seriously talented people workning on that.

Maybe the manuscript I am working on will be another Matrix movie. I can't rule it out. I can't spend much time here because I am buisy working on it and I might go to another forum that was recommended to me. You kids have fun and try to stir up some interest in another movie. I think t could be the best one yet.

Heh. I've been working on a fanfic myself. Totally different plotline from the Matrix Online though.

I would really like to see Morpheus' story. How he was freed, became a leader, his search for the Ones, and ending with him calling Neo for the first time in the office escape.

Yeah and also where he got that weird real-world necklace I've pointed out in the movies before

That is a good idea Zero One. If I was to write Morpheus's story it would have to be Matrix manuscript. I couldn't spin it off as an independant novel. Do you think it is worth the effort? Morpheus is definitely one of the coolest.

Not just Morpheus but also what happened with Niobe and Locke

Yes that would have to be covered as well. Could be quite dramatic.

There isn't going to be one about Neo and the twins thats stupid there may be something like a second animatrix though. Isn't strange that the same 4 people are the only people on this thread.

Its the same four people cause everyone else has had this conversation a few years ago. The simple fact is this: the first movie was damn good and would have gone down in history as one of the best movies ever. The sequals were trash that tarnished the first movie. Anything else that would be done now would only further the slide.