Now wait just a damn minute... Part 2....

I think we're all mature people here.. so I can freely say this.

How in the heck does Sex work in The Matrix?

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How do the machines get the babys out of the mother, in the goo, and how is .. the actual thing accomplished?

Think about it..

If the human race doesn't pro-create.. the "battery" source, ie the humans will eventually die off... and then the machines will die.

Right?

I think that they may have a the technology to actually grow humans in the pods, or at least that's what I inferred from the movie.

So they would be "born" in the goo and would live their whole lives in it, rather than being born from a real mother and moved there.

That doesn't answer the question...

How do the machines replicate a human without having the humans have actual sex?

It requires a lot of effort to get a baby made man..

I suppose the machines could of figured a way out of splicing two peoples dna together and then made a pod for the baby and watched the baby develope.. but... That just.. doesn't feel right.

I'm sure they have a surrogate mothers and fathers they take the sperm and eggs from. Then they artificially inseminate the eggs and plop them into the goo :)

Yeah, I never had a problem with this idea. I figured they have a large pool of eggs and sperm to work with, they could spawn embryos enmasse- place embryos into pods in an assembly line of sorts, plug them into a tree that feeds the pod all it needs for life.

My issue is at what point do they plugin? The plug in the back of Neo's head looks about the same size as everyone else's. I have a 4 month old boy right now, that plugin would be huge on the back of his neck. Not to mention that the jack that's used to interface would easily measure longer than the length of his head...

-WC-

I just rewatched the "human growing fields" section and
from the looks of it, it seems like when the children are
really small, they are in a tiny, egg-shaped tube with
a small plug. Then, when the kid reaches 12+ months
I guess they are put into the standard tube and have
the standard plugs (since that's what the movie
showed).

Maybe this will shed some light on the issue.

Luc L.

Human growing fields section? Where is that found?

-WC-

When Morpheus explains to Neo for the first time that he
is nothing more than a battery.

"There are fields Neo, endless fields, where human beings aren't
born, they're grown."

If you watch it at about 1/2 speed you'll see what I'm talking
about with the babies being small in the really tiny egg and
then bigger in the tube.

Luc L.

I'll have to do that. Something I think I have to do too is watch the Animatrix stuff. Seems there is a lot of good info in there. I saw the first one at a system with no sound and it looked incredible.

-WC-

The thing I don't get is at what point is the child connected to the matrix? A woman has a child in the matrix, justl ike rea like (I think). COnception, trimesters, birth. At what point is the child hardwired? Seems like a lot of micromanagement for the machines to figure out who's having sex with who in the matrix, and pair them up with a baby at the right time.

I wouldn't think that the baby would have to be in the womb at all, just raise it the way you would clone a baby theoretically.

When it hits 5-6-7-8-9 pounds, setup the baby jack. After a year, they go in the big pod.

I wouldn't think it would matter to the matrix if the correct mother and father raised the true biological child from their DNA. It could be anyone's.

-WC-

If you recall from the first movie Morphieus tells Neo, babies arent born. So with that said they have the ability to breed them. Thats why Neo had plugs, because he wasnt a child of Zion! As Dozer put it, he was a true child of Zion, born free!

I would imagine that if Neo would probably have some genetic similarities in the matrix to his matrix parents. Outside of the matrix, I wonder if he would really look like them at all.

I don't think there is any practical relation.

I think they would harvest eggs much like we harvest caviar - throw it into a big bin, do the same for sperm.

Then pull out one sperm, one egg and voila. Do whatever they have to do to get the ball rolling before they put the embryo into a pod. Breeding technology has jumped lightyears in the past 25 years, just think what it will be like in 100-200.

They may even do it more selective, much like how we do with breeding cattle where you would mix good strong lines.

Doing it either of these ways would produce babies that aren't inbred.

How the person's image is in the matrix is irrelevant if you stick to the plot that we are just batteries.

-WC-

When Dozer says he was born free...does that mean he cant get hooked up and go into the Matrix...and if that is the point then Zion is not a free world for Neo was able to stop the Sentinals...any other suggestions on this...

just because Dozer isn't free to do everything doesn't mean he's not free.

I live in America, land of the free, but I can't walk into the vault at the local bank and peruse the cash.

I don't feel any less free.

-WC-

You have to look at this a certain way, we, the human race currently are very close to being able to genetically engineer humans, it would only be a simple matter for the machines to mix the genetic code of the parents together in a random order and grow a human with the DNA. Check out the Reproduction section, we've been talking about this there too, it should talk about how the matrix coordinates sex and pregnancy near the end.

i think we should just leave it up to the imagination. The creation of the matrix is already technical enough!:)

In M1 you see the "fetus pods" and their seems to be a synthetic amniotic fluid in there hence the Yellow colour. I believe once the fetus reaches the tenth month (yes guys we actually carry for ten and not nine), they take them out and then place the plugs in them in a new pod where they feed off the dead of the old or killed.

Now that means they never experience breathing nothing but fluid which is totally plausable ( watch the Abyss).

On how they were conceived? In vitro fertalisation with the womb being the pod.

They grow the baby (using sperm and an egg from any person connected to the matrix), at the same time send a signal to that individual in the matrix she will have a baby, they grow the baby and after a certain period place it in it's own pod, connect the cables and voila... new matrix inhabitant.

very good point

dont you think

well i do
(well i do)

as previously mentioned, if you watch the scene in the Matrix (original), you can get a feel for what goes on...i.t shows a young baby getting all the plugs put in it and then the goo filling up around it...craziness...

Originally posted by crahan
They grow the baby (using sperm and an egg from any person connected to the matrix), at the same time send a signal to that individual in the matrix she will have a baby, they grow the baby and after a certain period place it in it's own pod, connect the cables and voila... new matrix inhabitant.

I agree greatly said.:)

You Guys have got some pretty neat Ideas and information. But this draws a lot of confusion. Because there is so many possibilities, it's hard to single out one. Well Keep thinking, I like your ideas.

Yes, it's like talking to the oracle isn't it :)

a lot of stuff that's *baking our noodle* :D

It could be that The Machines reproduce as a mimic of humans, and then enter their babies into the Matrix and pick a Female Human to be the mother? I don't know if this is true, but I'm still thinkin.