Homosexual views

okay this thread is not meant to offend anyone because of his of her sexual prefrences, but it is something that has been plaqing my mind for over a year. I would like to know what your views are on the homosexual population that is in the world, this is an open forum so bashing is aloud but know that you will get responces all i ask is that you take the critisism well and dont start ww111..



my views are that homosexual people are not right with God but that does not mean we should turn away from them, we should help them find God again.

Originally posted by smith1
okay this thread is not meant to offend anyone because of his of her sexual prefrences, but it is something that has been plaqing my mind for over a year. I would like to know what your views are on the homosexual population that is in the world, this is an open forum so bashing is aloud but know that you will get responces all i ask is that you take the critisism well and dont start ww111..



my views are that homosexual people are not right with God but that does not mean we should turn away from them, we should help them find God again.

Correction. Bashing is not allowed. We have already tried a thread like this. Homosexuality is a choice people make, and who are you to tell them otherwise.

Note to all members: I will leave this thread open IF AND ONLY IF there is no bashing, your views are put forward in a nice and polite manner and not condescending or demeaning, and you respect everyone's and I mean everyone's opinion, however wrong you think it might be.

And as I said before smith1, God can only help certain people, people who want to find Him. I am not religious and therefore find no need to find anyone. I make my own choices, and IF I wanted to be gay, that is my choice and no one else's.

do what you want, live your life to the fullest even if that means to you being a homoaexual. if you belive a person has there rights to sleep and love the same sex then thats great just think of what might happen not just to you and your spouce but to the community as well. personaly iam not a homosexual i have never met one only a bi ( would go out with a boy or girl.) if i did ever meet one truth is i would feel kinda wierd around him\her but i wouldn't alienate them or anything in that kinda maner. i just hope that in the future everyone will be happy and we can stop talking about homosexual marrage on the news and radio so everyone can move along and not have to listen to that stuff.

I know what you mean DPD and I remember the previous thread, but like he says he knew his views would draw flak and just wanted to air them, as well as see others'...we're not here to debate or resolve the unresolvable.

Me, well...I'm still working on it. I don't trust my ability to create views on things and people I've never truly interacted with closely.

Mac, uh, DPD? I don't quite fully understand your sentence. Are you referring to the old thread with DPD in it, or Archie? Or what? I need some clarification please.

Whups. A major mistake. In fact, I can't remember who it was that launched quite a heated argument there...all my trademark abyssmal memory remembers was 3 capital letters...:p Awfully sorry NMN.

I've had friends who were gay, but I don't personally agree with it, and I don't like to think about it.

Oh, no problem, Mac, I just wanted to know who you were referring to. It kinda caught me off guard.

I have a hard time condemning love. If two people can love each other, I am all for it. I think many make the mistake of stereotyping homosexuals as a deviant subculture. Deviance does not have a profile. Heterosexuals engage in the same deviant behaviors that homosexuals do. I can not believe the resistance to homosexual marriage in this country. Well, I can believe it, but I do not agree with it. Homosexual couples will always exist and I think legal recognition of these unions would make many aspects of our society easier. I think of orphans that can be adopted into a couple's home. I think of families that could be created. I think of easy resolutions to custody issues of children with two moms or dads, especially with lesbian couples. Many times in lesbian relationships one of the partners might die prematurely leaving custody issues between the remaining partner and the deceased's family, especially if the deceased is the birth mother. Here is a human being who did everything any other parent does with a newborn child and all of a sudden he/she has no legal rights. America's position toward homosexuals is very negative and destructive. It is appalling how hippocritical this predominantly christian society can be. I know what the Bible says about homosexuality, but I do not agree with it. I don't consider everything in that book to be the exact reflection of what God approves of. I don't see how He would condemn love and family.

I don't give a rat's ass about what people do in their bedroom. That put aside, what I do give a rat's ass about is people who do believe that they have some authority about what other people do in their bedroom.

What I think is most difficult for people to accept, is not actually the gay behaviour, but rather gay marriage. For some reason, gay marriage is seen as a sacred thing. Now, in the Netherlands, gay marriage is allowed, and I'm pretty damn proud about it. In the US (yeah, blah, blah, I'm bashing the US. The US made a point about it, so I can give my arguments about that point) people believe marriage is sacred, a sacred ceremony between a man and a woman.

Now, I have no intention of becoming statistical, but I think we can all agree that about 50% of all marriages in the US fail. Now, I'm not saying that this is bad, it's just the truth. If that is a fact, and I do remember reading that somewhere, how can anyone possible call it sacred? Till death do us part? I know some people like to bash skulls during a divorce, but the vows taken during a marriage are obviously broken one out of two times.

What is so bad about gay people getting married? In roman times it was quite usual for an older man to take a younger apprentice, who he would teach about society and other items, if you get my meaning.
There have been a lot of cultures where homosexuality was tolerated. In fact, dogs do it. I know for a fact that some male dogs have actually jumped on my male dog, attempting to mate.

Basicly, I believe we should leave homosexuals the hell alone, and do what they are best in :).

Mr U

I'm actually very apreciative of gay females, but that's just me.

Why do you when you (you, i meant general opinion) talk about a lesbian, you say like, she HAS to hate mens.
But when you know a gay man, you see that they love to hang around with women and all

Why that difference?

In Germany, gay marriage is allowed too and I have absolutely no problem with it. If they love each other, why not let them marry?

I have a gay friend, he told me about 1 year ago and I know that he had big problems at the time when he told his parents and his male and female friends..noone accepted him anymore...friendships were terminated just because of the fact that he's gay. I agree with HU, I really don't care what he's doing in his bedroom.

However, I must admit that I'm not sure how I would feel when I knew that one of my friends was a lesbian..I dunno, I would kinda feel queasy probably...

Originally posted by smith_fan
However, I must admit that I'm not sure how I would feel when I knew that one of my friends was a lesbian..I dunno, I would kinda feel queasy probably...

Hmmm, and if you would than be bi-sexual, all of my dreams would be full-filled... *sigh*

Seriously, though, I find it quite disturbing how friends deal with homosexuality. Many people seem to feel threatened or anything similar. It's not like gay men, or lesbian women are attracted to anyone of the same sex.
It's not like every male wants to have sex with any female, or vice versa.

I don't know how I would respond if someone in my neighbourhood would turn out to be gay. I do know, that I will try to accept them for who they are, and not reject them for being 'different'.

Mr U

Two people feel like doing something - it doesn't hurt anyone - what right do I have to tell them not to do it?
Personally, I disagree with homosexuality for relgious reasons, others might disagree with it for sexuality reasons. So what? Don't like it? Don't do it! Why do people care if gay people get married? Why do we care if they love eachother? Why do we care if they're going to start a family? Why do we care?

Gay friends? Hmm, I'd probably be more nervous around them, but that's how I'd feel, not what I believe. It's something that I should work on...

I think that the majority of gay men will tell you that it's more about sex than it is about love, being with other men. Lesbians mostly seem to hate men, but many of them look and behave very much like a man.

What I don't agree with is when people label themselves as 'gay' because they want to fit in, to fit a mold. Why not just keep your sexual orientation to yourself?

But why do you care Val? Seriously, all this fascination is beyond me... why don't people discuss why people ever liked Abba? That's a much more interesting question. Though perhaps slightly too scary to get into.

Speaking of which... my gay friends would listen to Abba and dance. I'm being serious.

my brother LOVES Abba...:huh:

See? This is MUCH more interesting!
Smithfan, shoot your brother in the head for me. Valasher, you do the same for your gay friends.
Abba. Pffft.

One thing that came up to mind when I thought about this subject is the reaction to people who were hterosexual to the point they converted. Contrary to what we believe, it is not completely proven that homosexuality is nature and not nurture. The end result is very hurt husbands or wives who find their spouse running off with someone of the other sex. Open society or not, that has got to hurt, considering the insult to your own sexuality, not to mention any kids left behind.

I think most of you know my opinion, but I will just say it again.....Homo(same) sexual( gender), is simply against our creation, we were created ADAM AND EVE, NOT ADAM AND STEVE!!!.......

Why some men our gay: So horney they start feeling attraction beyond women and towards other men.......
Why some women are gay: They like the idea of being men, or hating men, and once again may just be very horney, and I dont mean the kind you see in porn videos, I mean real lesbians......

Well thats my opinoin......

Wait a tic, it wasn't Adam and Steve? Now that just destroys the entire thing. Now I am going to have to move back the that wretched place and start my research all over again.

And once more it's about religion....

I believe consenting adults should be free to love/have sex/marry with other consenting adults (note I put adult and consenting for a reason) whenever they want without being ridiculed. I have many many gay mates, and regardless of their orentation/religion/lack of religion I love them all equally. I would be a bloody hypocrite if I didn't. That is just my views, of course. The church has done enough damage to them over time without us having the same views, whether we are religious or not.

Personally I'm all for gay/lesbian/homosexual relationships, I wouldn't be a part of one myself, but I have absolutly nothing against them.

Some of the nicest people I have met are gay and the Church's views on these relationships are, as far as I am concerned, wrong.

Edit: Watching the news this evening I saw that our delightful excuse for a leader has decided to ban gay and lesbian marriages, even passing a law on it. This moron Howard really doen't want another term for his party does he?

U been a homosexual has nothing to do with religon, nothing at all.
I don't even wanna get into that topic.
As I'm from New York, I am very familiar to there relationships. N have no problems with it all. I usto work in a gay club n had no problems. Just that they knew u were straight, they wouldn't bother u. I got alot of good friends from that club.
My bestfriend came out n I was so happy for her, because her life was pure hell before because she wasn't being true to her herself. N now she is complete. At times I prefer clubbin with them because there's no beef in clubs. When u go to other clubs be sure that a fight will brake out because it was either a guy messes with another guys girls, or just because someone push someone by accident. I hate that atmosphere.
I see them as people, going through the same struggles we r going throgh in life. N they deserve the same respect.
Now where the hell does religon falls in there. I have clue. Religon is too complicated. Too many rules, but mean while the rules that u r not suppose to break but another religon is breaking it.
All I have to say, I don't view them differently, they r people. With feelings, emotions, n struggles like us. N as I tell everyone, if u want me to respect u than u also have to respect me. That goes for everyone......