Interesting explanation for Revolutions

Ok, it's a tad late to start with explanations about the ending of Revolutions and the overall theme for the 3 movies, but I stumbled across this link just now and thought it would be interesting nonetheless:

http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2003/11/10/revolutions

Now, I personally think that Zandy1123's comment (3rd up from the bottom of the page), explains the movie best. Here's that section quoted for reference:


Zandy1123

After seeing Revolutions for the second time, I have some thoughts of my own that I feel compelled to share. Here we go...

I hate to say it, but I think one of the main "morals" of the story is the persistance and strength of love. We see it in M1 when the Oracle tells Trinity that she will fall in love with The One...that's just the beginning. In M2, it is Neo's love that saves Trinity (along with his uncanny ability to manipulate the Matrix, reach into the chick's chest and massage her heart back to live). Also, in M2, we're introduced to Link and his woman (can't remember her name) whose love, while little background is give, is made clear in the dialogue.

So - onto M3. At the very beginning, we find Sati and her parents in the train station. Her father says that he loves his daughter, which is exactly why he's saving her from deletion. Sati is a program who "serves no purpose," yet she's taken to the Oracle for safe-keeping (more on that later). Neo is confused when her father says that he "loves" her because he's never heard of a machine/program loving anything.

Skipping to the end of M3 - the final scene - the Architect asks the Oracle how long she thinks the peace will last. The Oracle responds "for as long as it can." The Oracle then asks if all of "the rest will be freed..." The Architect responds yes to that question and immediately after, Sati enters...she points to the beautiful sunrise and the Oracle asks "did you do that?" And Sati responds yes.

When I first saw M3, I was totally confused by the ending. When the Oracle asked if the rest would be freed, I thought she was talking about the rest of the humans that were in the Matrix. And I had NO idea what was up with Sati and her whole roll in things.

Now, I think I have a better idea of what was going on. Sati is love - and with love comes beauty and peace and all that foo-foo stuff. Sati is the object of love of her parents - she's a "useless" program set for deletion (machines/programs have no use for love) - she is so important, that the Oracle is her guardian in the Matrix - she creates beauty. Sati is love.

When the Oracle asks if the others will be freed, she's talking about the other so-called "useless" programs - those that are likely similar to Sati in uselessness - programs responsible for love, beauty, peace - all things that are not "necessary" in the machine world.

And remember what Smith says during the final fight with Neo in M3 - "only a human mind could invent something as insipid as LOVE..." WRONG!!! We learn in the beginning of the movie that programs are capable of the same connection - love. By introducting love into the Matrix, who knows what is possible - which is perhaps the reason for the Oracle's reply to the Architect regarding the lasting peace..."for as long as it can..." It's an unknown path, for with love comes uncertainty.

It's no wonder why the Architect has scheduled such programs as Sati for deletion all along...with love comes the unknown. The Architect is obsessed with the balanced equation - and by adding love into the mix, it only adds further imbalance to the equation. In fact, I think it's safe to say that it's Neo's LOVE for Trinity that causes him to choose the impossible path at the end of M2 - Neo makes a decision that the Architect could never predict.

I think the love theme isn't just a "ooh baby, I love you so much" kinda thing...I think it's more of a "brotherly/sisterly love" thing. It's a pretty powerful message: love is more than a variable, it's a complete unknown...and it's value is limitless...love spawns love...whether it's a machine, a person, a program - love is love - it conquers all.

just my 2 cents...I'm sure next time I watch the movie, I'll have a different opinion ;)

-Andrew [#]


Well, here I am, posting on this board after some time of inactivity. Nice feeling, I must admit :).

Hello Crahan. Hope you are doing well. This place sure is slow these days.

Anyways. I have to say while it's an interesting idea, it's got to be wrong. The architect is the creator/manager type for the matrix, not the machine world. He's not the source, and he's def not that big baby-faced machine ruler. He's got no jurisdiction to free those machines. Only the humans in the matrix.

Point taken, but I think he was speaking in name of the Deus Ex Machina. He doesn't have the power to personally decide over what programs are free to leave and which aren't, but I think he must have had some meeting with the 'big chief' to work out their stance on the situation.

Good to be back though :)

Hey welcome back you guys, Terikan and craHan I thought you two would never show up again, And Intresting explanation, I liked it.......

"but I think he was speaking in name of the Deus Ex Machina"

Certainly, that's possible. But he could also have been speaking in the name of Zorg, the ruler of Phantasia, who happens to have slave workers whom he will free on his planet 117 light years away.

Wow this brings back memories of last year.

Hi Crahan, Terikan, it's Eon D with a name change just incase your wondering who the hell i am.

Two things that have got me thinking again are 1) an old post that mentioned that Neo was still alive at the end because he was glowing and only things that where alive glowed with that light that we saw and 2) The Nordic prophecy of Thor and the Midgard Serpent at the last battle of Ragnorak.

The Nordic myth says that Thor, in the endtimes battle will come back and kill the Midgard Serpent but in delivering the blow that kills it the Serpent will at the same time deliver a fatal blow to Thor, resulting in the death of them both. Kind of reminds me how the machines sending the energy through Neo ended up killing him and the Smiths.

I'm sure he'll still be around if Warner Brothers decide to bring back the franchise in a few years anyway, so i'm guessing he was still alive.....:rolleyes:

it seemed as though every one thought it was bullsh**. anyway good i like it "thanx."

Bull criddy to me too, seems a little far fetched.

Why are people STILL discussing 'hidden meanings' in Revolutions!?!?! It's simply a pile of shit.

Originally posted by Ou Be Low hoo
Why are people STILL discussing 'hidden meanings' in Revolutions!?!?! It's simply a pile of shit.

how'd you know? This is based on your own opinion and other people MIGHT have a different opinion than you, Ou Be. Yes, some people are not like you ;) So please add only some constructive comments :)

Revolutions indeed is a pile of shit, but that's an interesting point whatshisname's got there. Love as the anomaly... Hmm, I'll have to get back to you on that...

I pretty much disagree with every point Zandy 1123 made. Yes, Seti might be love, but I think it is irrelevant. Seti's purpose in the story is to show the newly acquired freedom the programs have gained in the Matrix. Programs came to the Matrix to seek refuge from deletion. And as long as they were not located, they were free to "live". At the end of revolutions, programs no longer have to hide in order to escape deletion. They can exist with or without a purpose, and more importantly, they now have the choice whether or not to obtain a purpose. This, to me, is Seti's place within the story. The Architect is referring to the humans that want out. The Oracle wants assurance that they will be freed in order to maintain the newfound balance that everyone has fought so hard for. It is reasonable to assume that there will just as many humans, if not more, that want to stay in as there are humans that want out of the Matrix. I would probably want to stay in as long as I was happy. At least my choice would be clear. Also, "love" to a program is entirely different than "love" to a human. Zandy says that programs and humans share the SAME connection and this is not true. As Rama said in the train station, "love" is just a word; what is important is the connection it implies. This dialogue implies that "love" has different meanings for humans and programs. So, programs did not invent "love", only there interpretation of it.